Afraid to blame the Coach..?

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Please don't give me that "But doc got us a championship" stuff...Okay with the lineup he had then, Van Gundy could have done it....because the teams was unstoppable everywhere..! But then in the 2nd run, we got out coached by the Lakers, and yes, out-dirtied....but that is the point..! Adjustments are maded by the coach. It was the coach who let them NOT play, and simply lose 2 of those playoff games we could have easily won...

   But, the point is the current situation. San Antonio is proving it. We have strong bench guys, and strong vets, you see them rise on different nights, but they never seem to be together, or play in the right mix.....COACHING....! WHY do you think they refer to Doc as a "players " coach...thet means, he is just a go along....whatever you guys want type....of course the players like him / it....Doc can't seem to make PP pass or stop those fool ISO's that Detroit picked apart last night....the whole league knows about them....


 Rondo isn't to blame here, you cried because he couldn't shoot, so now he can....but where is his help, his fast break, his swift footed defenders to cause a turnover = fast break..we have little outside shooting to open lanes.....Look at the coach....! Look at SA's team..!

[Q_FBE]

What do you suggest that Doc Rivers do, Einstein?

 No name calling.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

WHAT...DO I suggest the coach do....hahahaha, well...thenks for being so convinced I am the better coach...! Thank you very much..! One thing would be is to watch what SA is doing, another would be to use HIS years of coaching....another is to try diff starting rotations.....the same old 5 is NOT working...need to pair more or some D with some O, those who are stronger on some sides that allow the other sides to play their stronger roles....you'd think I get paid to work all this out.....what a nice idea Mr Poster....!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

AndWHY for te st 4 years does this team fall apart on all fronts when KG isn't on the bench..? Does he coach..?

[Celts Fan 92]

I wouldnt blame Doc the team just aint as talented nd older father time is undefeated smh

[Inside-Out]

for not starting Pietrus and Wilcox and bringing Ray and JO off the bench to improve tempo and keep younger legs out there?

[Kwhit10]

I'd say for the most part it is not the coach, when a coach has good players the team does well.

I don't think if you had a different coach this group of players would be any better than they are now besides a small margin of error in +/- wins/losses.

The players are older playing in a condensed season and losing to a lot of young teams.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I'd say for the most part it is not the coach, when a coach has good players the team does well.

I don't think if you had a different coach this group of players would be any better than they are now besides a small margin of error in +/- wins/losses.

The players are older playing in a condensed season and losing to a lot of young teams.

Have you seen any of San Antonio's games, same situation, youth and exp players....with a lot of success. We have the players....but pp, kg, ray cannot start and play all the time anymore, they cannot do the hard D roles and produce on O...they need to be interwoven with the youths to free them up...get a 30-50% of pp, ray and kg..so they can be strong out there, then sit...not coast till they feel like it....

[Meadowlark_Scal]

for not starting Pietrus and Wilcox and bringing Ray and JO off the bench to improve tempo and keep younger legs out there?

These are the ideas I am talking about..THANKS.TP for thinking..!

[Kwhit10]

I'd say for the most part it is not the coach, when a coach has good players the team does well.

I don't think if you had a different coach this group of players would be any better than they are now besides a small margin of error in +/- wins/losses.

The players are older playing in a condensed season and losing to a lot of young teams.

Have you seen any of San Antonio's games, same situation, youth and exp players....with a lot of success. We have the players....but pp, kg, ray cannot start and play all the time anymore, they cannot do the hard D roles and produce on O...they need to be interwoven with the youths to free them up...get a 30-50% of pp, ray and kg..so they can be strong out there, then sit...not coast till they feel like it....

Eh I don't think it would make that much of a difference.  Outside of Bass I think the Spurs have a much better bench.

Of our most used lineups 2 of the 3 with best +/- include Pierce/Allen/Garnett.

[dark_lord]

i think everyone deserves some responsibility for lack of production lately.  however, i put a lot more on the players than the coach. 

[Inside-Out]

for not starting Pietrus and Wilcox and bringing Ray and JO off the bench to improve tempo and keep younger legs out there?

These are the ideas I am talking about..THANKS.TP for thinking..!

Right back atcha, bud.

Sticking with a formula that isn't working is not the same as having faith in the players, believing in the team, etc.

Danny has his back, though.  Maybe Danny needs to do something to force Doc's hand, though I think that's stupid.  It would be easier and smarter to give Doc a big ole dope-slap and tell him to quit yelling and start coaching.  It's not like yelling at veterans is exactly a motivator.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I'd say for the most part it is not the coach, when a coach has good players the team does well.

I don't think if you had a different coach this group of players would be any better than they are now besides a small margin of error in +/- wins/losses.

The players are older playing in a condensed season and losing to a lot of young teams.

Have you seen any of San Antonio's games, same situation, youth and exp players....with a lot of success. We have the players....but pp, kg, ray cannot start and play all the time anymore, they cannot do the hard D roles and produce on O...they need to be interwoven with the youths to free them up...get a 30-50% of pp, ray and kg..so they can be strong out there, then sit...not coast till they feel like it....

Eh I don't think it would make that much of a difference.  Outside of Bass I think the Spurs have a much better bench.

Of our most used lineups 2 of the 3 with best +/- include Pierce/Allen/Garnett.

unfortunatly for this theorum..people are not computors, and this isn't a video game....players play better together, some not....it is the unseen chemistry that makes this game magic. Nice job with the stats though..!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

for not starting Pietrus and Wilcox and bringing Ray and JO off the bench to improve tempo and keep younger legs out there?

These are the ideas I am talking about..THANKS.TP for thinking..!

Right back atcha, bud.

Sticking with a formula that isn't working is not the same as having faith in the players, believing in the team, etc.

Danny has his back, though.  Maybe Danny needs to do something to force Doc's hand, though I think that's stupid.  It would be easier and smarter to give Doc a big ole dope-slap and tell him to quit yelling and start coaching.  It's not like yelling at veterans is exactly a motivator.

That is a funny one, got a chuckle out of me..! I agree it isn't ALL doc...but this is also to get people to think instead of blame..the "Rondo gotta go" idea is twice as dumb...Doc has, at time put together some nice things....but not often enough...coaching is tough, coaching in the nba tougher...anyone can win with great, young players...here we have the classic mix of youth and age, and all pretty good, as we have seen...i have been reaonably happy with everyone...almost, on this team....but I am a TEAM guy, to me, coaching is a chess match....to piece together the best vs the current team, see who on our team is hot.....and apply our own little plays that we can work to take the other team out of their game..have you seen the Celtics apply ANY plays this year..?

[Tone]

Doc should bring Ray Allen and Jermaine Oneal off the bench