Anyone who says they would not trade Rondo for Russell Westbrook

[droopdog7]

Whereas Rondo is doesn't shoot enough (or even provide a threat), Westbrook can definitely shoot too much. 

Westbrook shoots alot because he's a scorer.  Are you saying it's a flaw for Rose, Kobe, Durant, Wade that they shoot alot?  How do you score points without shooting?

Rondo will never be elite if his main skill is being a pass first point guard.  That basically means you have to rely on having good teammates.  What happens when KG, Ray, Pierce are gone, who are you going to pass to?  Elite players can do it themselves if need be.  

Westbrook is a PG and the others (except Rose) are not.  There is a difference but perhaps you haven't heard.  And Rose is playing on a team with not a lot of other options. 

All I am saying is that Westbrook's shooting can be a problem, as well as the fact that he isn't much of a playmaker.  At one point last year, it became a big negative.

[LooseCannon]

I would not trade Rondo for Westbrook, if only to prove you wrong.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Whereas Rondo is doesn't shoot enough (or even provide a threat), Westbrook can definitely shoot too much. 

Westbrook shoots alot because he's a scorer.  Are you saying it's a flaw for Rose, Kobe, Durant, Wade that they shoot alot?  How do you score points without shooting?

Rondo will never be elite if his main skill is being a pass first point guard.  That basically means you have to rely on having good teammates.  What happens when KG, Ray, Pierce are gone, who are you going to pass to?  Elite players can do it themselves if need be.  

Kobe, Durant and Wade shoots a lot because they are the main scorers. Speaking of which, if you have Kevin Durant on your team and you shoot more than him, and you're the point guard?

Westbrook is a superstar no doubt. But this is just me, i don't think he can make his teammates better unlike what Rondo does. With just him alone, no Kevid Durant, I see him as a better, quicker, more efficient Monta Ellis. But I won't trade him for Rondo. Because Rondo can make Harden, Sefolosha, Ibaka and Perk better, Durant maybe even. I don't see it in Westbrook, my opinion at least.

[ManUp]

Westbrook scores better than Rondo, but that's pretty much it.

He's nowhere near Rondo in terms of play-making and passing.

[ederson]

 And Rose is playing on a team with not a lot of other options.  

Well i don`t think tha Rondo is playing on a team woth more options. On paper he should but in court it doesn`t look like it.

The team lucks a lot of things and a scorer is one of them.

[European NBA fan]

The problem with these comparisons between Rondo and Westbrook, D-Will, etc. is that they get paid much more than he does. Do we want one of the two star players on a max contract, that we can afford, to be our pg, or should it rather be a wing and a big?

It's very rare that point guards win championships, because their main role is to distribute the ball and get the team the most efficient option on offense. If they are first option as scorers as well, they have to be in the Derrick Rose category to be really effective.

Westbrook thrives because he is the 2nd option. I'm not sure that he knows that.

Rondo would be looking really good if Pierce, KG and Allen were scoring 19, 17 and 16 points per game (less than their championship season). But they are down to 17, 14 and 14. Rondo is scoring 15 points per game, making him one of the main options on offense.
That never used to be his role, so he is still learning to balance things out (and half the time being told to score more and half the time being told to get everybody involved).

Westbrook would have the same problems as Rondo in Boston, except that he would be the first option on offense. Would he more efficient than Rondo? I really doubt it.

We joke about bad contracts (Rashard Lewis, Joe Johnson, Gilbert Arenas before he got amnestied etc.), but the reality is that our own big 3 are now overpaid to a degree that we can't get the pieces to make this team a contender this year (unless someone throws us a freebie). Rajon Rondo on the other hand has a contract that allows us to pay two top star caliber players to lead this team, with Rondo as the all star point guard who can get the job done better than most others in the league.

So I wouldn't trade Rondo for Westbrook.

[PosImpos]

Rondo is a better passer, a better facilitator of an offense.

Westbrook is a much better overall player.  

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is not an enormous difference in ability between Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook.  Both are very similar players who put up very similar numbers.  They have similar strengths and weaknesses.  Rose is better, but not by a lot.

[Rtpas11]

is this really a debate? Brook is way better than Rondo. Rondo on OKC means Durant averaging 50 but being losers. Westbrook on the celtics mean We are on top of the league. I believe Danny Agrees...

[bfrombleacher]

Rondo is a better passer, a better facilitator of an offense.

Westbrook is a much better overall player.  

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that there is not an enormous difference in ability between Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook.  Both are very similar players who put up very similar numbers.  They have similar strengths and weaknesses.  Rose is better, but not by a lot.

ESPN has more highlights of Rose. Therefore to the average fan, he's better.

[Moranis]

Westbrook's FG% has jumped 20-30% every single season he has been in the league and he is increasing that while scoring more points per game.  In other words, he is growing and improving as a player by taking better shots and making better decisions.  His assist numbers are down a bit this year, but he started slowly and has been increasing those of late (while keeping his scoring and efficiency up).  He is also a pretty solid rebounder and generates about 2 steals a game.

Westbrook is better than Rondo, I don't really think that is debatable. 

[Dante]

Of course it is not debatable. What is not debatable too is that we cannot trade players in this forum, so why the exercise in futility? Why get upset cause so and so wont trade X for Y? I mean, think about the 100,000 proposed weekly trades in here. It may be entertaining for some, but why dwell on them? You think Danny and/or Doc are watching us and taking notes of what we say in here and maybe say: "Hey, thats a good trade - lets do it; why didnt we think about it first?" Get real.

[BballTim]

Rondo is a better passer, a better facilitator of an offense.

Westbrook is a much better overall player.  

  I disagree with this. Westbrook is a more productive individual player, Rondo is better in the sense that he contributes more to help a team win. A week or so ago Rondo had a game where he got 35 points and 6 assists. People were criticizing Rondo for not facilitating enough and not getting the rest for the team involved, and commenting that the team's done much better when he runs the offense and distributes instead of shooting all the time. That game would have been one of the better performances you'd get from Westbrook.

[CelticsFanNC]

  Shoot first PG's like Westbrook don't win NBA titles often if at all.  That's just the way it is.  Pass first PG's throughout NBA history have had far more team success then shoot first PG's.


  The reason for this IMO is that you never want your primary ball handler to be one of your primary scorers.  The only guys who have had consistent success on a team level being the primary scorer and primary ball handler were Jordan and Kobe.  We aren't finding one of them anytime soon since they don't come around more then once in a lifetime.  If you cannot get a Kobe or Jordan then you are far better off with a pass first PG if you want to win NBA titles.

[greenpride32]

Let's just put it this way; 30 out of 30 GM's would select Westbrook over Rondo; end of discussion.

[RedsCeltics34]

Let's just put it this way; 30 out of 30 GM's would select Westbrook over Rondo; end of discussion.

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