Could Austin Rivers realistically force a trade to the C's on draft day?

[screwedupmaniac]

Austin Rivers playing for his dad as a Celtic would be a terrible idea...talk about locker room discord based around father/son favoritism and too much familiarity between player and coach.

[azzenfrost]

I would rather see him get drafted by another team, grow into a star. Hit free agency, come to the C's and peak.

[boscel33]

The NBL is actually a joke. Its the most boring and depressing form of basketball to watch. There was a reason the league went bankrupt several years ago..... its rubbish

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[TrueGreen]

We can ask Doc, but Doc is no longer allowed to talk to his son. He would be fined if he did. This is the reason Austin Rivers decided to go pro. I think Doc can talk with him again after July 1. I think his mother can talk to him, but that could be tricky because she could be relaying messages from Doc.

And Danny can no longer have contact with Doc or Mrs. Rivers or he will be fined. Remember when Danny sat next to Durant's mother at a game and was fined. He didn't even know who he was sitting next to.

This will be a true test for David Stern et al. It also means that Doc and Danny will by watched so closely that there is no chance of getting decent refs into the league.

[jdz101]

The NBL is actually a joke. Its the most boring and depressing form of basketball to watch. There was a reason the league went bankrupt several years ago..... its rubbish

Edited for language. Please mind your language on this blog, we try to maintain a PG rating.

In a PG rated film, cuss words (to a point) are allowed:

PG — Parental Guidance Suggested. Some Material May Not Be Suitable For Children. A PG-rated motion picture should be investigated by parents before they let their younger children attend. The PG rating indicates, in the view of the Rating Board, that parents may consider some material unsuitable for their children, and parents should make that decision. The more mature themes in some PG-rated motion pictures may call for parental guidance. There may be some profanity and some depictions of violence or brief nudity. But these elements are not deemed so intense as to require that parents be strongly cautioned beyond the suggestion of parental guidance. There is no drug use content in a PG-rated motion picture.

The PG stands for pansy girl. So you aren't allowed to say any words you wouldn't say to a pansy girl. EG No F-bombs, S-bombs, C-bombs or any variety of bomb really.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd really rather draft a big instead drafting Austin.

As talented as Austin is, I believe we can have Ray back for a discount. And even if we don't, there are a plethora of FA 2's we could sign that could do what Ray Allen does for this team. And could be for cheap.

Brandon Rush (my Ray Allen replacement)
Alonzo Gee (not a shooter but a solid option)
Rudy Fernandez
Courtney Lee

Heck I'd go and say add Nick Young.

Solid big men would be a dime a dozen in this FA class. So for me, maybe we should address that problem on the draft. Be it Fab Melo, Arnett Moultrie, Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli. (and if they leave early, Jordan Henriquez and Aziz N'diaye. Add Jeff Whitey as a 2nd round target)

[Fafnir]

I'd really rather draft a big instead drafting Austin.

As talented as Austin is, I believe we can have Ray back for a discount. And even if we don't, there are a plethora of FA 2's we could sign that could do what Ray Allen does for this team. And could be for cheap.

Brandon Rush (my Ray Allen replacement)
Alonzo Gee (not a shooter but a solid option)
Rudy Fernandez
Courtney Lee

Heck I'd go and say add Nick Young.

Solid big men would be a dime a dozen in this FA class. So for me, maybe we should address that problem on the draft. Be it Fab Melo, Arnett Moultrie, Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli.

We don't need older role players to man the SG spot, we just need the largest talent available that can fit around Rondo.

I think going big is for the best as well, but depending on how the draft order shakes out I can easily see preferring Rivers to what's left on the board. Especially since we'll have a second first round pick.

[GreenEnvy]

Not getting into whether we should or shouldn't draft Austin, but couldn't he just not hire an agent and not work out for any teams?

Why would any team draft him with the risk of him going back to Duke and not being able to see him in person?

But I'm sure Stern would have something to say about it, unless as long as Ainge doesn't come near Austin he can't do anything.

[Fafnir]

Why would any team draft him with the risk of him going back to Duke and not being able to see him in person?

By draft night he'd have had to withdraw or his NCAA eligibility will have already been voided due to NCAA rules.

The only thing not hiring an agent and not working out for other teams would do is hurt his potential draft position. If he has a chance to go in the top 10 I can't imagine his dad letting him shoot his career in the foot like that.

[fairweatherfan]

Rivers is in and will hire an agent:

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/7740604/2012-nba-draft-austin-rivers-duke-blue-devils-enters-nba-draft-early-hiring-agent

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd really rather draft a big instead drafting Austin.

As talented as Austin is, I believe we can have Ray back for a discount. And even if we don't, there are a plethora of FA 2's we could sign that could do what Ray Allen does for this team. And could be for cheap.

Brandon Rush (my Ray Allen replacement)
Alonzo Gee (not a shooter but a solid option)
Rudy Fernandez
Courtney Lee

Heck I'd go and say add Nick Young.

Solid big men would be a dime a dozen in this FA class. So for me, maybe we should address that problem on the draft. Be it Fab Melo, Arnett Moultrie, Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli.

We don't need older role players to man the SG spot, we just need the largest talent available that can fit around Rondo.

I think going big is for the best as well, but depending on how the draft order shakes out I can easily see preferring Rivers to what's left on the board. Especially since we'll have a second first round pick.

Those SG's on the list arent old. Rush and Lee are the oldest and they're both about 27 (both are starting caliber players that could come cheap by the way). I can see Danny landing at least one from that list.

For me, there's a bunch of available talent, young veteran talent in the SG spot on this FA class that we could focus on getting a big in the draft and plug the hole at SG with those guys.

[Fafnir]

I'd really rather draft a big instead drafting Austin.

As talented as Austin is, I believe we can have Ray back for a discount. And even if we don't, there are a plethora of FA 2's we could sign that could do what Ray Allen does for this team. And could be for cheap.

Brandon Rush (my Ray Allen replacement)
Alonzo Gee (not a shooter but a solid option)
Rudy Fernandez
Courtney Lee

Heck I'd go and say add Nick Young.

Solid big men would be a dime a dozen in this FA class. So for me, maybe we should address that problem on the draft. Be it Fab Melo, Arnett Moultrie, Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli.

We don't need older role players to man the SG spot, we just need the largest talent available that can fit around Rondo.

I think going big is for the best as well, but depending on how the draft order shakes out I can easily see preferring Rivers to what's left on the board. Especially since we'll have a second first round pick.

Those SG's on the list arent old. Rush is the oldest and he's about 27. For me, there's a few available talent, young veteran talent in the SG spot on this FA class that we could focus on getting a big in the draft and plug the hole at SG with those guys.

They've all been in the league for what 4+ years? They're pretty much known quantities at this point and as role players I don't think you really consider them when you're drafting in the C's situation. Talent trumps position when you only have a single piece you know is high quality for the future. (Rondo, JJJ/Steamer/Bradley are still question marks long term)

[Donoghus]

I shake my head at some of these guys who decide to go pro early.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd really rather draft a big instead drafting Austin.

As talented as Austin is, I believe we can have Ray back for a discount. And even if we don't, there are a plethora of FA 2's we could sign that could do what Ray Allen does for this team. And could be for cheap.

Brandon Rush (my Ray Allen replacement)
Alonzo Gee (not a shooter but a solid option)
Rudy Fernandez
Courtney Lee

Heck I'd go and say add Nick Young.

Solid big men would be a dime a dozen in this FA class. So for me, maybe we should address that problem on the draft. Be it Fab Melo, Arnett Moultrie, Tyler Zeller or Festus Ezeli.

We don't need older role players to man the SG spot, we just need the largest talent available that can fit around Rondo.

I think going big is for the best as well, but depending on how the draft order shakes out I can easily see preferring Rivers to what's left on the board. Especially since we'll have a second first round pick.

Those SG's on the list arent old. Rush is the oldest and he's about 27. For me, there's a few available talent, young veteran talent in the SG spot on this FA class that we could focus on getting a big in the draft and plug the hole at SG with those guys.

They've all been in the league for what 4+ years? They're pretty much known quantities at this point and as role players I don't think you really consider them when you're drafting in the C's situation. Talent trumps position when you only have a single piece you know is high quality for the future. (Rondo, JJJ/Steamer/Bradley are still question marks long term)

I absolutely agree.

But my point though, is there's not a lot of FA big men available next year. Other than Hawes, Kaman and stretching it a bit, Omer Asik. Most of the talented and high upside ones are restricted and pretty sure every team will match any offer those guys get. We don't have big men, and this draft class has some solid to potentially starter quality ones coming in who are reachable.

Those role players are not long term answers I agree, but it at least it's a solid plug in the hole until such time we find the answer on that spot. There are not a lot of big men in this years FA that can do that.

By the way, I see a lot of Warriors games, Brandon Rush is starting quality. All star? Of course not. Starter? You better believe it.

[Marcus13]

Lord, I hope not.