What is Kyrie Irving's ceiling?

[Bingbangbarros]

Well right now he's playing a little less than 30 minutes per game. I don't watch him often so I don't have a great comparison but his per 36 minutes averages are pretty impressive:

21.8 p 4.2r 6.1 ast on 49% fg, 41% on 3's and 21.5 PER. He's only 19 so there's ALOT of room to improve. If his percentages hold up that is ridiculously efficient for a rookie.

[European NBA fan]

He seems to have a real killer instinct. It's like the game gets simpler for him, when the game is on the line. It will be interesting to see how he fares next season, when the other teams have seen him a few more times.

[action781]

The way Jay Williams was supposed to be but way way faster and more athletic. Like 85% of Chris Paul. I admit I have no idea how he is defensively.

Yesssss I like the Jay Williams comparison.  I was really bummed out about his injury even though I was a huge Maryland fan.  If we're talking "ceiling" than more like 90-95% of Chris Paul.  If we're talking what I expect, I say 80-85% of Chris Paul.

[action781]

Tony Parker caliber PG

Interesting.  Where would you slot Parker into the current PG hierarchy, Who? 

I think I have him 7th best PG this season. All-Star caliber player but not a franchise guy.

Whats your total PG list?

#1 - Deron
#2 - Rose
#3 - Paul
#4 - Rondo
#5 - Nash
#6 - Westbrook
#7 - Parker
#8 - Steph Curry
#9 - Kyle Lowry

I think I have Irving at #12 or #13 and John Wall down around #18-#21. I prefer Wall as a prospect to Irving though in large part due to his superior physical tools (and vision).

Wow, Deron #1?  That surprises me.

Just for argument's sake:

1a - Chris Paul (he balls hard in the regular season, but is capable of bringing his game to a complete other level to game to in the playoffs)
1b - Derrick Rose
3 - Deron Williams
4 - Westbrook
5 - Nash (over Rondo only b/c of consistency)
6 - Rondo
7 - Parker

Nothing really matters after here... Lowry, Wall, Lawson,  Irving, Curry, Conley, Jennings, Kidd, Rubio would be my rough order, but they're all pretty significantly inferior to that top 7 while all very solid players to have running your point.

[PosImpos]

I think the depth of very good point guards in the league is such that as long as you have one of them you could hope to contend as long as you have a great frontcourt or an elite wing player.  Without the frontcourt or the great wings, I'm not sure any of the PGs in the league is going to carry a team to a title.  Even D-Rose and CP3 need their frontcourts to play great.

[ManUp]

At 19/20 with the way he's playing his ceiling isn't even in view yet.

I think Parker is his floor though.