Lets not blame Rondo for all this teams problems...

[cman88]

Seems alot of posters seem to love to blame our All-star PG for every problem with this team...and would trade him for junk like scola..

but lets take a step back and just admit that our big 3 are old...its not rondos fault that the bigs dont box out or rebound, its not Rondos fault that KG would rather sit out near the 3point line and take jumpers, its not rondos fault NO ONE ELSE wants to drive to the hoop and take fouls..

what we are seeing now is 2 different types of players...Rondo needs to play fast, he needs to play with players around his age that can get out on the fast break.

too many times Rondo NEEDS to slow down because everyone is a step or two behind him. we saw the beginning of the season what he is capable of. and I would not trade him unless you can get an upgrade (CP3) but since we cant I say keep him..

his contract is reasonable...and I think he will be much better next year surrounded by young players that have as much energy as him to run on the break.

PG's like rondo who average 14/10/5 don't grow on trees. Lets not act like Avery bradley can do the same things as rondo leading an offense

but, fans feel the need to find someone to blame..and lately Rondo has unfairly become the goat..

[green7]

agreed..


even tho i put some of the blame on rondo, not moving the ball fast just holding the ball running down the shot clock just to get an assist.his gambling most of the time is not called for either.and he needs to use his quickness + speed and drive more often and get more creative @ the basket like how he was in the past.and showing up more in the 4th Q

but yeah there's no way you can blame rondo for not boxing out the opponents center and power forward and being more aggressive on rebounding lol.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

They want Rondo out that's why. And the way Rondo is playing, it's adding more fuel to the fire.

[bopna]

Seems alot of posters seem to love to blame our All-star PG for every problem with this team...and would trade him for junk like scola..

but lets take a step back and just admit that our big 3 are old...its not rondos fault that the bigs dont box out or rebound, its not Rondos fault that KG would rather sit out near the 3point line and take jumpers, its not rondos fault NO ONE ELSE wants to drive to the hoop and take fouls..

what we are seeing now is 2 different types of players...Rondo needs to play fast, he needs to play with players around his age that can get out on the fast break.

too many times Rondo NEEDS to slow down because everyone is a step or two behind him. we saw the beginning of the season what he is capable of. and I would not trade him unless you can get an upgrade (CP3) but since we cant I say keep him..

his contract is reasonable...and I think he will be much better next year surrounded by young players that have as much energy as him to run on the break.

PG's like rondo who average 14/10/5 don't grow on trees. Lets not act like Avery bradley can do the same things as rondo leading an offense

but, fans feel the need to find someone to blame..and lately Rondo has unfairly become the goat..

If thats the case, then the one to blame for all this brouhaha is non other than Doc.

We all know how he notoriously hate playing rookies and young guns heavy minutes, he should try and see what he has in JJJ, Moore, Steisma and Bradley.

Giving these players garbage minutes isn't gonna cut it, they should be thrown into the fire speccially in those back to back situaions like last night when there is zero energy from the Captain, even Ray hence Rondo becomes uninterested.

Give Rondo a gazelle like JJJ who loves to run and hopefully once Green comes back, these young guns would reenergize our PG. Starting Rondo with 4 vets on the wrong side of 30 means no energy, Rondo walks it up, sets up offense but if nothing happens, we get stuck in a rut.  Doc should also start benching vets who do not play up to par, problem with doc is his head is up his ass if the vets don't play well, they still play, why not just accept the fact that PP, Ray and KG should also sit if  they play crap, Rondo too if plays like the Toronto game then why not sit him and let him think about his awful play.

[Inside-Out]

It's not about blame, it's about finding or creating a combo of players that could win against anybody on any night.

There's lots of chatter and general agreement that Rondo is at his best in the open court, which is completely true.  Unfortunately, playoff basketball is mostly a half-court game, and the rest of the roster can't make up for Rondo's limitations in the half court like they used to do.  And I really, really don't think putting a bunch of young, less experienced players with Rondo is going to make the problems of the half-court offense go away.  If anything, it'll be worse.

[xmuscularghandix]

All-Star PG? Not this year.

I like Rondo but i will be blaming the teams problems on him. Too much moping around and holding the ball... he's killing the offense and not really trying too hard on defense.

[PosImpos]

I don't blame Rondo for all of this team's problems, but I do put a lot of blame on him for this team's fourth quarter struggles.

As I posted in another thread, I think my dad explained the issue really well in an e-mail he sent me today:

Bingo with respect to Rondo!  The sooner that he’s gone, the better!!!  Tommy had his MO, a long time ago.  He is so frustrating when it gets to the fourth quarter.  The Celts have it tough enough in crunch time, never mind shortening the shot clock by 10 plus seconds.  As you know, teams ramp up the D in the 4th quarter, packing it it in.  This is exacerbated by known tendencies.  Other teams know that the Celts are a jump shooting team with no inside game.  Plus they know that Rondo can’t shoot, so they don’t step out to pressure him.  This leaves the Celtics wasting precious seconds standing around and then, with the shot clock winding down, scrambling to get one of the shooters an open look.  Way too often, all five Celtics are on the perimeter or retreating just after one of them has launched a wayward outside shot.  You just can’t win consistently that way.

[jbaerg]

We need a point guard that can shoot.

[Tone]

Rondo is stopping the offense so he does deserve the criticism he is getting.

[hpantazo]

Part of it is his general attitude on the floor. He holds the ball too long, he passes up too many open looks, he doesn't go to the basket nearly enough, he gambles too much for steals on defense, he let's slower guards get into the lane too much, he focuses more on complaining to the refs and arguing with players and generally moping instead of making the next play. Those are not qualities you want in a team leader, which is what he was supposed to be for this team going forward as the big three age. Ainge tried to trade him before these issues became too evident, but now it's a bit too late imo and his value has taken a significant hit.

[Sketch5]

His style of play just doesn't fit the team any more. He's a fast break PG on a half court grind it out team. His best passes are in the fast break. He turns it over more in the half court when he try to do some thing and every one is standing around.

I also think they've fallen in love with the double screen for Ray. Thats Rondo, he calls the plays, and he should know now what it looks like if the play wont work and Ray can't get open.

Rebounding is also a huge problem. I think Johnson can contribute now, and Doc just needs to try it out for a few games. JJJ at the 4 and KG at the 5. That would give Rondo a runner, keep Bass on the bench so we get some scoring. Shoot even start Peitrus over Ray right now. Have the scrubs chance Ray around, give Bradley a vet to play with that knows the system.
That would make both first and second unit a good mix of D and offense.

[Roy H.]

The offense should be blamed for all of this team's problems.  Rondo is a big part of the offense, and is a big part of what's wrong with it.  However, he's far from the sole reason.

[cman88]

All-Star PG? Not this year.

I like Rondo but i will be blaming the teams problems on him. Too much moping around and holding the ball... he's killing the offense and not really trying too hard on defense.

if Rondo wasnt injured, and missed so much time, he likely would be an allstar. the guy was on fire to start the year...thats a moot point though

but as was mentioned earlier. hes a fast break point guard on a team that is getting older/slower so he has to get us into our half court sets. and you cant blame him if your main stars cant make their shots in the offense.

danny tried to trade rondo, but lets not forget it was for CP3 a top 5-player in this league..you make that trade.

 Rondo is a bargain at $10million for what he can do and bring to the team. unless you want to start out next year with Avery bradley as your starting PG a guy with hardly an offensive game