If KG had boxed out Gasol

[kozlodoev]

If KG had boxed out Gasol, we would have won this game definitely. It was that simple but he just didn't do it. sigh

  He could have made a few more of his layups as well. Maybe we should try and get Giselle to say "Rondo can't pass the ball to a player and then shoot it for them as well!".

Oh god, I hope Rondo doesn't have to shoot the ball for anyone else. That'd be a disaster.

[greenlion]

if this was game 7 of the nba finals, then i would really lament on the loss,but its just one game in which the breaks didn't go our way..losing to cleveland after being up by 11 in the last four minutes was more disturbing  i m o..we would rebound from this...like most celtics fans out there, it left a bad taste because it was the lakers who beat us, am i right?

[apc]

we lost by 1 point. i can come up with a lot of if's for this game.
but there is no question about KG's overall performance last night.

[BballTim]

If KG had boxed out Gasol, we would have won this game definitely. It was that simple but he just didn't do it. sigh

  He could have made a few more of his layups as well. Maybe we should try and get Giselle to say "Rondo can't pass the ball to a player and then shoot it for them as well!".

Oh god, I hope Rondo doesn't have to shoot the ball for anyone else. That'd be a disaster.

  Yes, it generally kills a team's chances when the player with one of the highest fg% on the team shoots the ball.

[Tgro]

If KG had boxed out Gasol, we would have won this game definitely. It was that simple but he just didn't do it. sigh

Using that stat, you think hes a better shooter than Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG?
  He could have made a few more of his layups as well. Maybe we should try and get Giselle to say "Rondo can't pass the ball to a player and then shoot it for them as well!".

Oh god, I hope Rondo doesn't have to shoot the ball for anyone else. That'd be a disaster.

  Yes, it generally kills a team's chances when the player with one of the highest fg% on the team shoots the ball.

So using that statistic, you think Rondo shoots better than KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen?

[BballTim]

If KG had boxed out Gasol, we would have won this game definitely. It was that simple but he just didn't do it. sigh

Using that stat, you think hes a better shooter than Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG?
  He could have made a few more of his layups as well. Maybe we should try and get Giselle to say "Rondo can't pass the ball to a player and then shoot it for them as well!".

Oh god, I hope Rondo doesn't have to shoot the ball for anyone else. That'd be a disaster.

  Yes, it generally kills a team's chances when the player with one of the highest fg% on the team shoots the ball.

So using that statistic, you think Rondo shoots better than KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen?

  Obviously they're better shooters, but it's an interesting philosophical question. Rondo hits just over 52% of his 2 point shots, Pierce is at about 44%. Clearly Pierce is the better shooter, but does that mean that we're better off with Paul taking more mid-range shots than Rondo?

[LooseCannon]

KG refuses to box out, and can't jump over everyone anymore, and that's why he's not a good defensive rebounder anymore.  And to think he led the league in rpg the four seasons before coming to Boston.  His rebounding fell off a cliff as soon as he put on the green. 

Last season, KG was 4th in the NBA in defensive rebounding percentage.

Because he was 4th in the NBA in defensive rebounding percentage,  does that mean he boxes out?

And does it mean he's anywhere near as good a rebounder as he was in Minny? 
 

It means his defensive rebounding percentage in the past four seasons has been in line with what he was doing from 1999-2000 to 2002-2003 and a bit behind what he was doing when he led the league four straight years from 2003-2004 to 2006-2007.  This season, his defensive rebounding percentage has slipped to about 18th in the league among players with 300+ minutes played.

The claim that he's not been a good defensive rebounder for the Celtics and that his rebounding has fallen off a cliff would be inaccurate.  He may not be as good as he once was, but he's still good.  I think "falling of a cliff" would better describe Kendrick Perkins seeing his rebounding numbers fall below the level of Glen Davis this season.

[huzy]

The frustrating element of last night is that the Celtics are a team potrayed as gritty defenders that are willing to do the "small things" to gain a competitive edge. When older undersized defenders like KG are seen trying to out jump longer offensive rebounders like Bynum and Gasol it looks lazy/careless...plain and simple.

Once a player can no longer rely on his athleticism, he must resort to force when it comes to rebounding.

KG is perceived as a crafty veteran who works his tail off. To see him failing to make this adjustment in big games is frustrating.

Frankly, boxing out is fundemental. I cannot excuse KG for failing to do so.

Even more maddening is that he seems to be overly tentative on offense because of his recognition of athletic corrosion. He is altering his game in ways that are counterproductive by refusing to adjust to his defensive limitations and overcompromising his interior offensive game. 
 

[GreenEnvy]

If KG had boxed out Gasol, we would have won this game definitely. It was that simple but he just didn't do it. sigh

Using that stat, you think hes a better shooter than Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG?
  He could have made a few more of his layups as well. Maybe we should try and get Giselle to say "Rondo can't pass the ball to a player and then shoot it for them as well!".

Oh god, I hope Rondo doesn't have to shoot the ball for anyone else. That'd be a disaster.

  Yes, it generally kills a team's chances when the player with one of the highest fg% on the team shoots the ball.

So using that statistic, you think Rondo shoots better than KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen?

  Obviously they're better shooters, but it's an interesting philosophical question. Rondo hits just over 52% of his 2 point shots, Pierce is at about 44%. Clearly Pierce is the better shooter, but does that mean that we're better off with Paul taking more mid-range shots than Rondo?

Absolutely.

If Rondo had to create his own shot, he would probably hit it at a 30% clip. His FG% is so high because he takes what the defense gives him, which is usually open jumpers. Pierce doesn't get that. You give him those same wide open jumpers and Pierce hits 65+% of them.