Super Bowl conclusions

[Eja117]

In no order


The Pats need either a good left tackle or need to switch Solder to left and Light to right. Light played the game of his life last night and still is no match for the Tucks, and JPPs of the world.  Adding Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters helped a lot. Losing former pro bowler Koppen didn't matter lots and may have even helped.

Get ooooonnnnneeeee good, tall, fast WR. Just one.

Get one good player at every level of the defense.  Although I think this secondary could be good if they got more help up front and Chung stayed healthy.

Eli is an elite QB. Took him a little while to bloom, but he's better than his little brother ever was.  I think we've seen enough of both of them to know this now. Probably cause he films less commercials.

These running backs are good and should be used more. Maybe a lot more.  No need to add anyone. Just need to let Stevan and BJGE compete. Faulk can go to the Junior Seau phase of career.

Keep an eye on Ryan Mallet. 

[MBz]

The running backs should be used a WHOLE lot more.  Green-Ellis needed 15-18 carries last night, not ten.

[Eja117]

I think Nicks needs to be tested for performance enhancers for getting up from that Chung hit. And Chung needs to be tested for breaking a low of physics.  Mass x Acceleration = force? Is that right? There is no way he could accelerate so fast, and he doesn't have so much mass as to have created that force.  I don't think I ever saw anything like that before.

[Reyquila]

The only conclusion that is 100% accurate is that the Giants are a more clutch team than the patriots.

[PosImpos]

The only conclusion that is 100% accurate is that the Giants are a more clutch team than the patriots.

True.  More specifically, the Patriots are not built to succeed in the post-season.  We have 4 years of evidence to back up that assertion.  In the post-season, when things get rougher and tougher and tighter, the Patriots become a decidedly un-scary team.

[kozlodoev]

The only conclusion that is 100% accurate is that the Giants are a more clutch team than the patriots.

True.  More specifically, the Patriots are not built to succeed in the post-season.  We have 4 years of evidence to back up that assertion.  In the post-season, when things get rougher and tougher and tighter, the Patriots become a decidedly un-scary team.

Nah, I don't buy this. The Patriots were one play from winning the Super Bowl, the way there were constructed. Maybe they're not head and shoulders above everyone else as they have looked during the regular season, but they were decidedly able to pull this win, and inexplicably fizzled  down the stretch.

[Eja117]

The only conclusion that is 100% accurate is that the Giants are a more clutch team than the patriots.

True.  More specifically, the Patriots are not built to succeed in the post-season.  We have 4 years of evidence to back up that assertion.  In the post-season, when things get rougher and tougher and tighter, the Patriots become a decidedly un-scary team.

Nah, I don't buy this. The Patriots were one play from winning the Super Bowl, the way there were constructed. Maybe they're not head and shoulders above everyone else as they have looked during the regular season, but they were decidedly able to pull this win, and inexplicably fizzled  down the stretch.

Agreed. I think they might have been a healthy Gronk, or a healthy Andre Carter away. With more draft picks next year I can definitely see them having another shot. There's nobody in the AFC that scares me. Maybe Pittsburgh if Roth doesn't get hurt again. But they don't have as many picks as we do to the best of my knowledge and there's free agency too

[KGs Knee]

Maybe most Pats fans won't want to hear this, but, the one conclusion I am left with is that Eli has arrived for good.  He is on Brady's level.

2-0 in the SB vs a QB considerd to be one of the all-time greats?  Not much else to say.  Eli made the plays twice now, while Brady didn't.

[kozlodoev]

Maybe most Pats fans won't want to hear this, but, the one conclusion I am left with is that Eli has arrived for good.  He is on Brady's level.

2-0 in the SB vs a QB considerd to be one of the all-time greats?  Not much else to say.  Eli made the plays twice now, while Brady didn't.

Eli has always been good in big games. The problem is he's so poor in _other_ games that he has issues getting to the big ones.

[Eja117]

Maybe most Pats fans won't want to hear this, but, the one conclusion I am left with is that Eli has arrived for good.  He is on Brady's level.

2-0 in the SB vs a QB considerd to be one of the all-time greats?  Not much else to say.  Eli made the plays twice now, while Brady didn't.

I thought Eli played phenomenally, but I wouldn't be surprised if after those miracle passes he made if his coach said "Don't ever do that again" . His receivers made the plays, not him.

[KGs Knee]

Maybe most Pats fans won't want to hear this, but, the one conclusion I am left with is that Eli has arrived for good.  He is on Brady's level.

2-0 in the SB vs a QB considerd to be one of the all-time greats?  Not much else to say.  Eli made the plays twice now, while Brady didn't.

Eli has always been good in big games. The problem is he's so poor in _other_ games that he has issues getting to the big ones.

Yeah, some of the inconsistencies Eli displays during the regular season combined with Brady's overall accomplishment keeps Brady ahead, for now.  But the gap is far less today than it was to begin the season.

Beating your counterpart twice in the biggest game of all, is huge.

[KGs Knee]

Maybe most Pats fans won't want to hear this, but, the one conclusion I am left with is that Eli has arrived for good.  He is on Brady's level.

2-0 in the SB vs a QB considerd to be one of the all-time greats?  Not much else to say.  Eli made the plays twice now, while Brady didn't.

I thought Eli played phenomenally, but I wouldn't be surprised if after those miracle passes he made if his coach said "Don't ever do that again" . His receivers made the plays, not him.

I am assuming you're referencing the Manningham catch.  It was a spectacular catch, you're right.  But that was a pinpoint accurate throw.  The ball was placed in the one and only spot that would allow the reciever to make the catch in the first place.

[Redz]

Some conclusions on my part

Gronk on one leg wasn't enough.  On the hail mary you could see him pull up.  In a game of inches we needed an other inch or two out of him.  Bummer, since he had such a great year.

Someone in another thread was going about how Brady and Bird used his heroes, but Brady no longer is because Bird would die before losing (or something of the like).  I love Brid like no other athlete ever, but it should be pointed out that both he and Brady now have 3-2 records at the championship level as pros.

[Eja117]

Some conclusions on my part

Gronk on one leg wasn't enough.  On the hail mary you could see him pull up.  In a game of inches we needed an other inch or two out of him.  Bummer, since he had such a great year.

Someone in another thread was going about how Brady and Bird used his heroes, but Brady no longer is because Bird would die before losing (or something of the like).  I love Brid like no other athlete ever, but it should be pointed out that both he and Brady now have 3-2 records at the championship level as pros.

One interesting thing is you can see Gronk calling for the ball. He definitely thought he had what it would take to catch that. He was probably expecting it behind him, but he didn't adjust to it. He had a while and just didn't

[PosImpos]

The only conclusion that is 100% accurate is that the Giants are a more clutch team than the patriots.

True.  More specifically, the Patriots are not built to succeed in the post-season.  We have 4 years of evidence to back up that assertion.  In the post-season, when things get rougher and tougher and tighter, the Patriots become a decidedly un-scary team.

Nah, I don't buy this. The Patriots were one play from winning the Super Bowl, the way there were constructed. Maybe they're not head and shoulders above everyone else as they have looked during the regular season, but they were decidedly able to pull this win, and inexplicably fizzled  down the stretch.

Well, the thing I see is that the Patriots are built to win by scoring 24-30 points, at least, almost entirely through the air. In the regular season they do that without any trouble.  In the post-season, they struggle mightily to get their offense into a real rhythm, with the exception of one game against a weak opponent (the Broncos).