The center situation is just ridiculous

[Chief]

Start Wilcox.

Use Stiemsma for minor stretches.

Finish Games with KG and Bass.


Did Przybilla officially sign with anyone yet? I doubt he would even make a difference (see: Murphy, Troy), but he would be an added body.


Anything from JO is a bonus from here on out.

If it is a close game, like the first Cavs game, I think you need Steamer in, at the end, for shot blocking. C's might have won that game if Doc would have made a defensive substitution.

[vinnie]

Doom and gloom... we can't beat anyone with a winning record....we beat Orlando twice and then Indiana.

Doom and gloom...we started out 4-8...we've gone 8-2 since.

Doom and gloom...Rondo is seriously hurt and will miss time...we go 6-2 during his absence with Avery Bradley starting and E'Twaun Moore backing him up.

Doom and gloom...we are down 27 to Orlando...we come back to win.

Doom and gloom...we are missing Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Jermaine O'Neal, Keyon Dooling and Chris Wilcox from the lineup...we win the game.

Doom and gloom...our center position isn't perfect...........



Excuse me if I don't fall in line with the doom and gloom regarding this team. I have heard it before and this team has shown the doom and gloom to be entirely WRONG!!!!

Yep, that 12-10 record through the easiest stretch of the season and that 7th seed right now are certainly outstanding.  I am no a doom and gloomer. I am enjoying the season. To deny the center position is a joke, however, is ignoring reality in my opinion.

[GreenEnvy]

Start Wilcox.

Use Stiemsma for minor stretches.

Finish Games with KG and Bass.


Did Przybilla officially sign with anyone yet? I doubt he would even make a difference (see: Murphy, Troy), but he would be an added body.


Anything from JO is a bonus from here on out.

If it is a close game, like the first Cavs game, I think you need Steamer in, at the end, for shot blocking. C's might have won that game if Doc would have made a defensive substitution.

KG is a better defender at C than Stiemsma and although Bass is obviously not KG on defense, KG makes up for it.

I wouldn't look to that one game against Cleveland. Obviously nothing went right at the end.

[pearljammer10]

That's all I have to say -- 

I dont really think it ridiculous at all. JO is the 5th option on a team of 4 all stars. He isnt going to get big numbers but when he is out there and healthy he has filled in fine, especially on the defensive end. Wilcox is a great center to come off the bench. Him getting more minutes and playtime like he had against New York is only going to make his confidence go up and click with the team more.... If JO goes down Im fine with KG and Bass starting... Wilcox coming in for KG. then KG coming back in for Bass with Steamer getting the spare time minutes.

Could we improve at center? Yeah sure...But its not as bad as people make it out to be...We dont have a superstar center but its not like we have three duds either.

[nickagneta]

Doom and gloom... we can't beat anyone with a winning record....we beat Orlando twice and then Indiana.

Doom and gloom...we started out 4-8...we've gone 8-2 since.

Doom and gloom...Rondo is seriously hurt and will miss time...we go 6-2 during his absence with Avery Bradley starting and E'Twaun Moore backing him up.

Doom and gloom...we are down 27 to Orlando...we come back to win.

Doom and gloom...we are missing Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Jermaine O'Neal, Keyon Dooling and Chris Wilcox from the lineup...we win the game.

Doom and gloom...our center position isn't perfect...........



Excuse me if I don't fall in line with the doom and gloom regarding this team. I have heard it before and this team has shown the doom and gloom to be entirely WRONG!!!!

Yep, that 12-10 record through the easiest stretch of the season and that 7th seed right now are certainly outstanding.  I am no a doom and gloomer. I am enjoying the season. To deny the center position is a joke, however, is ignoring reality in my opinion.

Its always reality with the doom and gloomers and if you don't agree you aren't facing reality.

This team started out 4-8 because paul Pierce was injured and a vast majority of the team came in out of shape. That has been rectified. That 4-8 start during that time is the reason for our current 7th seed and 12-10 record. Still I seem to remember some predicting we would be with only about 8 wins at this point.

But if the center position is such a joke then obviously that must have cost us a ton of games because the opposing center just wrecked this team.

Well it cost us a Cleveland game as Varejao got every important rebound in the final few minutes, though I would argue so did the absence of Rajon Rondo.

It definitely cost us one Indiana game and the Phoenix game but other than that, our center position hasn't really cost us that many games. And we have won 2 games versus Dwight Howard, a game versus Tyson Chandler and a game versus Roy Hibbert. So clearly even when you have a very good to outstanding center, that doesn't mean you win every game.

Our center position is not ideal but since there is such a lack of good centers in the league, it really doesn't matter that much. Or at least as much as you are claiming.

[Tgro]

I think we can survive and I'm sure we'll even contend with our current center position the way it is.

But I think we'd be a lot more awesome if we just had a reliable consistent player(s) there. I don't think we need much more at center. When we get just a little now, we do very well. And usually we win we get a decent outing at center.  

We just can't be invisible at center.

[GreenFaith1819]

I suppose that the center position just got more interesting, with Bass sitting out today.

Expecting big things from Wilcox, Stiem, and JJ!

[FallGuy]

Doom and gloom... we can't beat anyone with a winning record....we beat Orlando twice and then Indiana.

Doom and gloom...we started out 4-8...we've gone 8-2 since.

Doom and gloom...Rondo is seriously hurt and will miss time...we go 6-2 during his absence with Avery Bradley starting and E'Twaun Moore backing him up.

Doom and gloom...we are down 27 to Orlando...we come back to win.

Doom and gloom...we are missing Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Jermaine O'Neal, Keyon Dooling and Chris Wilcox from the lineup...we win the game.

Doom and gloom...our center position isn't perfect...........



Excuse me if I don't fall in line with the doom and gloom regarding this team. I have heard it before and this team has shown the doom and gloom to be entirely WRONG!!!!

Yep, that 12-10 record through the easiest stretch of the season and that 7th seed right now are certainly outstanding.  I am no a doom and gloomer. I am enjoying the season. To deny the center position is a joke, however, is ignoring reality in my opinion.

Its always reality with the doom and gloomers and if you don't agree you aren't facing reality.

This team started out 4-8 because paul Pierce was injured and a vast majority of the team came in out of shape. That has been rectified. That 4-8 start during that time is the reason for our current 7th seed and 12-10 record. Still I seem to remember some predicting we would be with only about 8 wins at this point.

But if the center position is such a joke then obviously that must have cost us a ton of games because the opposing center just wrecked this team.

Well it cost us a Cleveland game as Varejao got every important rebound in the final few minutes, though I would argue so did the absence of Rajon Rondo.

It definitely cost us one Indiana game and the Phoenix game but other than that, our center position hasn't really cost us that many games. And we have won 2 games versus Dwight Howard, a game versus Tyson Chandler and a game versus Roy Hibbert. So clearly even when you have a very good to outstanding center, that doesn't mean you win every game.

Our center position is not ideal but since there is such a lack of good centers in the league, it really doesn't matter that much. Or at least as much as you are claiming.

It does matter much. The C's don't rebound the ball well enough to get anywhere in the spring. It's not just about center vs. center matchups. It's about overall team defensive rebound rate. And Boston's not close to good enough.

[nickagneta]

Beat Marc Gasol and the Griz today. Another good center the Celtics beat.

[TheTruthFot18]

That's all I have to say -- 

Thanks for an in depth opinion. Saw nothing wrong with the center position today. In fact I didnt really see any problems in todays game. They're cruising now

[Celtics18]

Doom and gloom... we can't beat anyone with a winning record....we beat Orlando twice and then Indiana.

Doom and gloom...we started out 4-8...we've gone 8-2 since.

Doom and gloom...Rondo is seriously hurt and will miss time...we go 6-2 during his absence with Avery Bradley starting and E'Twaun Moore backing him up.

Doom and gloom...we are down 27 to Orlando...we come back to win.

Doom and gloom...we are missing Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Jermaine O'Neal, Keyon Dooling and Chris Wilcox from the lineup...we win the game.

Doom and gloom...our center position isn't perfect...........



Excuse me if I don't fall in line with the doom and gloom regarding this team. I have heard it before and this team has shown the doom and gloom to be entirely WRONG!!!!

Yep, that 12-10 record through the easiest stretch of the season and that 7th seed right now are certainly outstanding.  I am no a doom and gloomer. I am enjoying the season. To deny the center position is a joke, however, is ignoring reality in my opinion.

Its always reality with the doom and gloomers and if you don't agree you aren't facing reality.

This team started out 4-8 because paul Pierce was injured and a vast majority of the team came in out of shape. That has been rectified. That 4-8 start during that time is the reason for our current 7th seed and 12-10 record. Still I seem to remember some predicting we would be with only about 8 wins at this point.

But if the center position is such a joke then obviously that must have cost us a ton of games because the opposing center just wrecked this team.

Well it cost us a Cleveland game as Varejao got every important rebound in the final few minutes, though I would argue so did the absence of Rajon Rondo.

It definitely cost us one Indiana game and the Phoenix game but other than that, our center position hasn't really cost us that many games. And we have won 2 games versus Dwight Howard, a game versus Tyson Chandler and a game versus Roy Hibbert. So clearly even when you have a very good to outstanding center, that doesn't mean you win every game.

Our center position is not ideal but since there is such a lack of good centers in the league, it really doesn't matter that much. Or at least as much as you are claiming.

It does matter much. The C's don't rebound the ball well enough to get anywhere in the spring. It's not just about center vs. center matchups. It's about overall team defensive rebound rate. And Boston's not close to good enough.

I guess OKC probably won't be good enough come spring either.  Our defensive rebounding rate is currently above theirs.  Let me add that the Celtics are within a percentage point of the Bulls in that category as well.

Of course, I'd love to see us show more consistency on the defensive glass, but I think the issue is being way overblown right now.

[Ersatz]

It does matter much. The C's don't rebound the ball well enough to get anywhere in the spring. It's not just about center vs. center matchups. It's about overall team defensive rebound rate. And Boston's not close to good enough.

This is a bewildering cherry-picking of stats. We are ahead of OKC and barely behind the Lakers. Are they not going anywhere in the spring either? Oh, and of the top seven DRR teams in the league, four of them are Cleveland, Toronto, New Orleans, and New York. Are those teams temporarily struggling contenders because of their outstanding DRRs?

[FallGuy]

It does matter much. The C's don't rebound the ball well enough to get anywhere in the spring. It's not just about center vs. center matchups. It's about overall team defensive rebound rate. And Boston's not close to good enough.

This is a bewildering cherry-picking of stats. We are ahead of OKC and barely behind the Lakers. Are they not going anywhere in the spring either? Oh, and of the top seven DRR teams in the league, four of them are Cleveland, Toronto, New Orleans, and New York. Are those teams temporarily struggling contenders because of their outstanding DRRs?

Speaking of cherry-picking stats... nice work....

OKC has the fourth best offense in the league and two young stars capable of getting their own shots and finishing game-after-game in the playoffs. They are not struggling for offense the way the C's are. They are not struggling for energy, game-to-game.

Boston has the 17th best offense in the league. They need to get out in transition (where they're the second most effective team in the league) to get easy baskets. To do that, they have to rebound.

What's more, Boston's aged players have to work so hard for playoff baskets, they can't afford to be giving up extra offensive rebounds and wearing themselves out on defense. Look what happened to Kevin Garnett after his big game against Miami last spring. He fell apart.

If you think this DRR-Offense thing isn't a major problem, you're kidding yourself.

As to the Lakers, yeah, they're going nowhere until they address their offense. They know that.

[RayAllen4Three]

And AB?

The last week or so has AB believing he could guard Michael Jordan, I bet.

I'm sure AB will get some time on Kobe.

Come back to earth guys he could not guard Irving how is he going to stop Kobe?

Kobe cannot be stopped, of course.

But I bet AB could slow him down in stretches.

I hope Kobe gets frustrated and then tries to out-shoot us or Ray Ray.....that will play right into our hands.

Avery Bradley will pick up 2 quick fouls and be relegated to the bench. Book it.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Wilcox should be starting, the way he's playing he's clearly the best fit to start for our team. Put JO on the bench and bring him alongside Bass as subsitutions work themselves out. JJJ should get any free minutes that remain around, although I enjoyed quite a bit what Stiesma showed me earlier in the season, I'm no longer comfortable with what he brings to us considering our other options. I expect Stiesma, Dooling, and/or Quis to be cut from the roster depending on how the buyout market works itself out.