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Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2012, 10:13:39 PM »

Offline Moranis

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Honestly you could put together a pretty solid team with non-lottery picks just from the 2004 draft alone.

C - Al Jefferson, Anderson Varejao
PF - Josh Smith
SF - J.R. Smith, Trevor Ariza, Sasha Vujacic, Dorrel Wright
SG - Kevin Martin, Tony Allen, Delonte West
PG - Jameer Nelson, Beno Udrih, Royal Ivey, Chris Duhon

A little light inside, but overall a pretty solid team that could score on anyone (though if you just extended up to include non-top ten you could add Biedrins (11) and Humphries (14), which would solve a lot of the interior weakness).
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Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2012, 10:53:53 PM »

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And they traded a pick back to Minnesota that was Boston's which I think might have ended up being a #6 pick in 2009 - Flynn.

So of all the picks they traded for Ray and KG, 2 ended up being top 6 picks, 2 ended up being top 15 picks and three were what would be called late picks.


The Minnesota pick would have ultimately been a 2012 2nd rounder. It was just a throw-in to the trade for kg.

Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2012, 11:01:12 PM »

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Honestly you could put together a pretty solid team with non-lottery picks just from the 2004 draft alone.

C - Al Jefferson, Anderson Varejao
PF - Josh Smith
SF - J.R. Smith, Trevor Ariza, Sasha Vujacic, Dorrel Wright
SG - Kevin Martin, Tony Allen, Delonte West
PG - Jameer Nelson, Beno Udrih, Royal Ivey, Chris Duhon

A little light inside, but overall a pretty solid team that could score on anyone (though if you just extended up to include non-top ten you could add Biedrins (11) and Humphries (14), which would solve a lot of the interior weakness).


That team couldn't guard a chair.

Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2012, 11:05:33 PM »

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If somebody like Dwight Howard wants to sign with the C's if they keep the Big 3, even at this stage of their careers, then by all means 'do NOT blow it up!' However, if Ainge accurately forecasts that he can not sign anyone of potential championship caliber impact player this summer and especially next summer, plus he accurately forecasts that the team has flaws (say 1 of the Big 3 gets a season ending injury if they can somehow turn back the clock for a chance at winning it all) he can't resonably cover up with a trade that won't sacrifice the future, that pretty much makes the chances of winning a Championship a big fat zero... then it makes sense to dangle the Big 3 (especially KG and Ray) in a trade for Draft picks and expiring contracts to speed up the "in that scenario's inevitable rebuilding process".

The correct answer in "to blow it up" or "not to blow it up" is that it depends. Voilà!

Ainge should wait until the deadline to make a decision on the C's future (albiet another Championship Chance or build for the future) and a lot of that I'm sure will depend if DH is traded (and extended) or not. lol.

Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2012, 04:29:16 AM »

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I've heard this last ride stuff before. Some just can't pull the trigger but love mediocrity. It's like a pacifier.

Re: A history lesson for those wanting to blow it up
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2012, 06:59:40 AM »

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If the Celtics blow it up, the Celtics will get worse, and thus since they are barely a playoff team right now, will in fact end up in the lottery.  In fact, if the right trades are made, the team could be so bad it is guaranteed a top ten pick, in what is most likely the deepest draft in years.  If the Celtics then pick up a few more firsts, they could possibly move up in the draft, or trade them and utilize the cap space to get other players.  

Also, if the Celtics don't blow it up, what is exactly the plan to avoid the team from going into rebuilding next year.  The draft picks will be worse, the cap room isn't going to land a major star, so the team will be mediocre or bad next year, but won't have utilized the expiring contracts to pick up more assets.  

Shhh, you make way too much sense. Don´t you know we don´t like to talk about elephants on this site, even if they fill the whole garden?

Instead, we should all just cheer for our team, while we await the return of our saviour, Rajon Rondo, the man around whom we will build our next contender. You know, the same guy Ainge wanted to trade before the season.

If we all just believe hard enough, it won´t matter that this team lost Jeff Green for the season, and didn´t get significantly better compared to last year, where we lost in the second round 4-1, only because the saviour was injured.

After all, this is war, and you don´t undermine the morale of the troops with petty doubts about the meaning of it all. Instead, we will do everything to deflect blame from the heroes we worship, as we learned on ESPN, and blame Ainge for not doing enough when it all goes down the drain. The least we owe guys like Pierce and Garnett, aside from a combined $37 M this year, is some loyalty.

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