Is anyone still upset about the Perk trade?

[BballTim]

I was for it at the time and still am for it.  Perkins isn't worth the money he's getting, but that's the market.  Not his fault. You use the money you saved on his contract and get another body in here that is better than Perkins.

Not sure how anyone can be against it.  You got 2 pieces for 1.  Green, and the Clippers 1st round pick.  2 solid pieces at that.

I believe Ainge always has a plan, and he's already thinking above and beyond.  He's always prepared and there is a reason for everything. My gut feeling tells me Ainge is going to ultimately combine 1 of the 2 first round picks (Celtics own, or the Clipper pick, whichever is worse) with a player to get up to the top 10 in this deep draft.

i.e. Celtics or Clippers pick + Rajon Rondo = Top 10

The only other question is, who is he targeting in this deep draft ?  Austin Rivers is the likely candidate, but you never know with Ainge.  A Pierce future replacement ?  Big man ?  Shooting guard to replace Allen ?

he won't have to move up to draft Rivers unless a lot changes before the draft.

I suspect that if Rivers isn't slated for a lottery pick, he'll stay at Duke another year.

  If I was Rivers (coming from a family with more money than you can shake a stick at) I'd think about coming out in a situation like that. I'd probably just as soon start out my career on a 40 win team than wait a year to join a 22 win team that will probably be a much less stable situation.

[indeedproceed]

  I'm sorry - I'm a little flabbergasted. This isn't refutable? Perkins missed a significant amount of time after the injury and then played like garbage when he came back. It is irrefutable to you that Perkins gave the C's a better chance? Really?   

Yes. The starting center whose departure severely rattled the teams' best player by his own admission not leaving gives the Cs a better chance.

  I'd love to see the quote where Rondo said that he was severely rattled by Perk's departure. Maybe Rondo wouldn't have had that hand injury to play through if Perk had stayed? He would have been free of any effects of plantar fascitis?

Yep. 100% healthy and free of any concerns.

EDIT: I can't find the quote and I'm sure you know the one Im thinking of. The one where Rondo said he let Perkins trade bother him too much, and that he had to realize it was just a business orwhatever...

 So as long as we don't see any difference between "somewhat bothered" and "severely rattled", I'd agree with you. But clearly there's a difference, right?

Did the quote say 'somewhat bothered'? I forget.

EDIT: and while its possible that 'severely rattled' is overstating the effect, I think 'somewhat bothers' implies an understatement (as 'somewhat' could mean just about anything). I think, and we have disagreed on this before, that Rondo was pretty beaten up about the whole thing, and the injures only exasperated the issue, rather than his buddy leaving exasperating his injuries)

[Fafnir]

Am I the only one who thinks that forcing Rivers to coach his son on the pro level is a terrible idea?

No I don't think its a good idea either.

[LB3533]

Am I the only one who thinks that forcing Rivers to coach his son on the pro level is a terrible idea?

No I don't think its a good idea either.

I don't like it either. I believe Mike Dunlevy got fired while coaching Jr.

[Dante]

Its not that Im not still upset about the Perkins trade.  I was never upset about that trade
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[PosImpos]

I was for it at the time and still am for it.  Perkins isn't worth the money he's getting, but that's the market.  Not his fault. You use the money you saved on his contract and get another body in here that is better than Perkins.

Not sure how anyone can be against it.  You got 2 pieces for 1.  Green, and the Clippers 1st round pick.  2 solid pieces at that.

I believe Ainge always has a plan, and he's already thinking above and beyond.  He's always prepared and there is a reason for everything. My gut feeling tells me Ainge is going to ultimately combine 1 of the 2 first round picks (Celtics own, or the Clipper pick, whichever is worse) with a player to get up to the top 10 in this deep draft.

i.e. Celtics or Clippers pick + Rajon Rondo = Top 10

The only other question is, who is he targeting in this deep draft ?  Austin Rivers is the likely candidate, but you never know with Ainge.  A Pierce future replacement ?  Big man ?  Shooting guard to replace Allen ?

he won't have to move up to draft Rivers unless a lot changes before the draft.

I suspect that if Rivers isn't slated for a lottery pick, he'll stay at Duke another year.

  If I was Rivers (coming from a family with more money than you can shake a stick at) I'd think about coming out in a situation like that. I'd probably just as soon start out my career on a 40 win team than wait a year to join a 22 win team that will probably be a much less stable situation.

That's a fair point.  From what I've read of him, though, it seems like he considers himself a star, and I think he'd probably rather spend another season growing into an even more prominent role for a successful Duke team than get selected in the middle of the 1st round and become a role player on a team that already has a bunch of players fighting for spots.

As you said, he comes from a fairly wealthy background, so he shouldn't be concerned about getting paid right away.