C's are clearly not contenders

[vinnie]

The title of this thread is right on the money. Celtics are not a serious contender. And, that is okay. I am at peace with that. Just hope Danny has a plan to rebuild quickly.

[GDAbraham]

Yeah, they managed to lose/lose big leads and win in bad fashion every year since the formation. They also have exceeded expectations many times. Even now they have. Clearly they're older and young kids can battle with them with sheer energy, but you can't really call their chances this far out. It's definitely close to the end of the Big 3 rollercoaster (at least as we know it), but a ride is a ride. And I'm on for the long haul. Whether Danny makes moves now or finds a way to add youth in the summer it's gonna happen when it does. They've shown enough in this meat grinder of a lockout season that they can compete with anyone and that's good enough for me.

[nickagneta]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

[rondohondo]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

I understand not wanting to become a lottery team after many years of watching crappy bball from the c's, but IMO it is the only way you can become contenders again

Just look at OKC... Durant , Harden and Westbrook all top 10 picks

Lac..... Griffin a top 10 pick and drafting others in the lottery allowed them to land CP3

Chicago.....Rose,Noah , Deng all top 10 picks I believe

Memphis..... Gay, Conley, Mayo .....Top 10 picks


These are all the main contender of the future and all did it though the draft, the only way you can really build an NBA team these days unless you are in a hot spot for free agents

even the c's landing a top 5 pick in 2007 landed them a pick they traded for Ray and then KG wanted to join after ...

[fairweatherfan]

Wow.

I've monitored this blog since mid 2006...joined it in Oct09.

I've NEVER seen it so caustic around here, to be honest.

I think the Perk trade didn't help things, but wow.

I think the Great "Optimist/Realist" War of '10 tops anything I've seen this year.

And based on what I've seen from other teams' sites, every fan base has an element like what we see here.  They're a minority but very vocal.  It's called defensive pessimism - loudly declaring the worst to try and shield yourself from being hurt or disappointed.

[rondohondo]

Wow.

I've monitored this blog since mid 2006...joined it in Oct09.

I've NEVER seen it so caustic around here, to be honest.

I think the Perk trade didn't help things, but wow.

I think the Great "Optimist/Realist" War of '10 tops anything I've seen this year.

And based on what I've seen from other teams' sites, every fan base has an element like what we see here.  They're a minority but very vocal.  It's called defensive pessimism - loudly declaring the worst to try and protect yourself from being hurt or disappointed.

well in the c's case it's just being realistic , what are the c's really gonna win this year ?

[Eja117]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

I'm a New England fan. I expect my teams to compete for championships as my birthright, or to have a plan to do so and I offer no apologies about that.  

[fairweatherfan]

Wow.

I've monitored this blog since mid 2006...joined it in Oct09.

I've NEVER seen it so caustic around here, to be honest.

I think the Perk trade didn't help things, but wow.

I think the Great "Optimist/Realist" War of '10 tops anything I've seen this year.

And based on what I've seen from other teams' sites, every fan base has an element like what we see here.  They're a minority but very vocal.  It's called defensive pessimism - loudly declaring the worst to try and protect yourself from being hurt or disappointed.

well in the c's case it's just being realistic , what are the c's really gonna win this year ?

I agree - I don't think it's likely. 

But what you're saying is exactly what lots of posters said in 2010 too.  And quite a few in 2008.  And it's a lot of the same people being the most vocal about it now.  The common thread isn't the team's actual chances, it's how those people tend to view things.

[Cman]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

I'm a New England fan. I expect my teams to compete for championships as my birthright, or to have a plan to do so and I offer no apologies about that.  

Ha! You must be a young New England fan, then.
I'm a New England fan, and I expect my teams to fail miserably!

[Change]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

don't forget "I told you so" crowd. they'll make an appearance come May or June.

But well said, Tp

[rondohondo]

Wow.

I've monitored this blog since mid 2006...joined it in Oct09.

I've NEVER seen it so caustic around here, to be honest.

I think the Perk trade didn't help things, but wow.

I think the Great "Optimist/Realist" War of '10 tops anything I've seen this year.

And based on what I've seen from other teams' sites, every fan base has an element like what we see here.  They're a minority but very vocal.  It's called defensive pessimism - loudly declaring the worst to try and protect yourself from being hurt or disappointed.

well in the c's case it's just being realistic , what are the c's really gonna win this year ?

I agree - I don't think it's likely. 

But what you're saying is exactly what lots of posters said in 2010 too.  And quite a few in 2008.  And it's a lot of the same people being the most vocal about it now.  The common thread isn't the team's actual chances, it's how those people tend to view things.

in 2010 Lebron and Wade and Bosh weren't on the same team , the big 3 were 2 years younger and the c's had a legit starting Center(until he got hurt)

Rose was a rookie and had no supporting cast

and we played the magic in the ecf with a roster of Nelson, SG,Hedo,Bass and Howard .....

[wdleehi]

Contenders
Pretenders
Lotto bound




Doesn't matter at this point.  In the NBA, teams are looking to pick the Celtics bones like vultures, not give good offers that set the Celtics up for the future.

[Cman]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

Nicely said, especially that last paragraph.

The reality is, it is still early in the season, and there is a lot of basketball left. Teams can get better (look at Miami last year) teams can get worse down the stretch (look at the Red Sox in September of this year -- yes, I'm aware its a different sport).  And injuries can completely derail a season (just hopefully not the Cs).

Patience everyone, patience.

[nickagneta]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

I'm a New England fan. I expect my teams to compete for championships as my birthright, or to have a plan to do so and I offer no apologies about that.  

I'm sorry is this team not competing for a championship after being just .500 after 20 games?

Were the 2001 Pats not competing for a championship after being 5-5 after 10 games in a 16 game season?

Were the 2004 Sox not competing for a championship after being down 0-3 to the Yankees in the ALCS?

Were the Bruins not competing for a championship last year when they started two playoff series 0-2 or this season when they started the season 4-7?

Were the Celtics not competing for a championship in 2010 when they ended the regular season 27-27?

Yeah, you are a New Englander who demands championships but sometimes being a New England sports fan means supporting your team through thick and thin and believing there is a chance to win it all even though everyone says you can't.

[EJPLAYA]

I think this team will win the Atlantic, get into the second round and then anything can happen.

What happens if Bass happens to pull down LeBron in an awkward fashion and he dislocates his shoulder? Boston could win.

Get into the second round and anything can happen after a long year and with a team as playoff experienced and having the heart that this team has.

I'm not going to go to the "blow it up" crowd or "they can't do it crowd" because after watching 22 years of crap, I would rather have hope with this team than think getting bad for years and years is a viable mental aspect to take into my Celtic watching regimen.

Such thoughts just provoke looking at road wins in a negative sense and get people angry rather than enjoying watching basketball. I have too much stress/anger/negativity in my life without having it seep into my Celtic basketball watching portion of it.

Nick. you know better than that. pretending we are contenders doesnt make it so.