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Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far?
« on: January 28, 2012, 09:23:00 PM »

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IMO
1. The Jeff Green situation was just a bad coincidence so I don't blame no one and I wish best luck for his life.
2. I think Kenyon Dooling is the primary letdown because while reading articles in December, it was frequently mentioned that he'll be healthier than D West. Plus I still dont see what Doc sees in him... literally, Moore takes good care of the ball as what he did in his games anyways. My last point about Dooling is that we never really saw a game that he 'showed up.' Some would say "Its because he never played enough games" but I don't see that point used by Sasha, he contributed to the team critcally on more than one occasion. IMO the solution to Dooling is to somehow package him with others for Kaman.

Who are you most disappointed on so far?
« Last Edit: January 28, 2012, 09:52:43 PM by OttawaCeltic »
Jameer an elite PG?Please, ask that to his garbage highlights.



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Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 09:28:33 PM »

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dooling showed up in that miami game defiantly.
and he can be injured now,as long as he's ready for the playoffs that's all that matters just like delonte.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 09:30:23 PM »

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I think our biggest disappointment so far is conditioning. Our guys are supposed to be smart veterans who know how to take care of themselves in the offseason and how to handle a lockout, yet, with the exception of Rondo and Ray, they all came in out of bball shape and that has really been our only major weakness so far, the main reason we stared off so poorly.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 09:32:09 PM »

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Marshon Brooks.  By a long shot.

This kid has a chance to develop into an all star, and we let him slide by.  He's already a 20 point per game scorer, decent rebounder, passer, and ball handler.  Who knows what he'll be if he improves a couple years.

On the flip side, the player we got for him plays a position where we have a log jam, and has looked downright weak in the short time he has been given.

I'm not saying JJJ doesn't have a future, but I feel like it was known all along that Brooks could be more ready right now, and for a team built for right now, I'm disappointed we didnt stick with him.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 09:39:36 PM »

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Injuries are always a disappointment, and Rondo's early one is definitely a bummer.

The thought of "what might have been" is always a bit disappointing, too.  Thinking about a team with CP3, Green, and David West is a lot of fun to think about.

In terms of player performance, other than rust and injury, I'm actually okay with how everyone is playing right now.  I guess Chris Wilcox was a disappointment until last night, but let's hope he brings more consistency going forward.


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Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 09:43:40 PM »

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Marshon Brooks.  By a long shot.

This kid has a chance to develop into an all star, and we let him slide by.  He's already a 20 point per game scorer, decent rebounder, passer, and ball handler.  Who knows what he'll be if he improves a couple years.

On the flip side, the player we got for him plays a position where we have a log jam, and has looked downright weak in the short time he has been given.

I'm not saying JJJ doesn't have a future, but I feel like it was known all along that Brooks could be more ready right now, and for a team built for right now, I'm disappointed we didnt stick with him.

Brooks is averaging 15 ppg for the Nets, not bad, but not a 20 ppg scorer either. If JJJ was on the Nets he may have been averaging 15 and 8 right now, who knows. This team is built for now this year, but this year is it. JJJ was a pick for the future. Also, do you really think Brooks would be playing over Ray, Paul, Pietrus, and Daniels with Doc as a coach? No way, his stats would look a lot like JJJ's stats if he had been on the celtics this year.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 09:46:55 PM »

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I'm not disappointed at all.
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Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 10:01:45 PM »

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dooling showed up in that miami game defiantly.
and he can be injured now,as long as he's ready for the playoffs that's all that matters just like delonte.
1. Did he show up at any other time. That matters because it proves consistency.
2. I don't like signing players to not play half the season and only w8 till the playoffs...
Jameer an elite PG?Please, ask that to his garbage highlights.



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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 10:04:23 PM »

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I was more disappointed earlier in the season than I am now. I think everybody has brought it up a notch and I'm really liking the chemistry this team is starting to show.

I would say I was most disappointed in Daniels for the longest time because he was missing just about every shot he put up for awhile. I don't know if he was just scared after his mishap last season or what but he didn't look like the same player as before the incident. I'd say lately, he's been looking a bit more comfortable.

I'd also say I was easily disappointed in JO. He left for surgery last season and Shaq broke down and Perkins was traded. He came back for the playoffs and played admirably. I figured he'd come back this season and look even better but he looked like his feet were glued to the floor. The last couple games before he got hurt looked like he was starting to come around. I still consider his finger in the face of Howard as the defining moment of the season so far. (Still want a picture of that BAD). The dude is brittle obviously, but if he can hang in there for us, I think he's coming around too.

Everywhere else I'm fairly happy with how things are going (minus injuries). I'm seeing something out of these guys that just looks like there is some real potential here. I just hope it pans out.
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 10:05:19 PM »

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Rondo's free throws by far.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 10:15:26 PM »

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Marshon Brooks.  By a long shot.

This kid has a chance to develop into an all star, and we let him slide by.  He's already a 20 point per game scorer, decent rebounder, passer, and ball handler.  Who knows what he'll be if he improves a couple years.

On the flip side, the player we got for him plays a position where we have a log jam, and has looked downright weak in the short time he has been given.

I'm not saying JJJ doesn't have a future, but I feel like it was known all along that Brooks could be more ready right now, and for a team built for right now, I'm disappointed we didnt stick with him.

Brooks is averaging 15 ppg for the Nets, not bad, but not a 20 ppg scorer either. If JJJ was on the Nets he may have been averaging 15 and 8 right now, who knows. This team is built for now this year, but this year is it. JJJ was a pick for the future. Also, do you really think Brooks would be playing over Ray, Paul, Pietrus, and Daniels with Doc as a coach? No way, his stats would look a lot like JJJ's stats if he had been on the celtics this year.

His average has been climbing, and would be substantially higher if he started the year playing as much as he was recently.  In starter minutes, I think it's fair to say he's already a 20 point a game scorer.  If JJJ was on the nets he would still be just as weak as he is for us, and to me that's what keeps him off the court above everything else.  

Brooks wouldnt need to play over Ray, Paul, or Pietrus to be a big time difference maker for us.  He would be taking Moores minutes, and some of Marquis and Bradleys.  A scorer like Brooks is going to get in the game for any team, with any coach thats trying to win.  On a team like ours, where bench scoring is often an issue...he'd be huge.  The only player on our team better than Brooks at creating his own offense, is Pierce.  

Moore and Bradley have both had games where they logged 20 minutes already.  After Moore played extended minutes once and showed offensive ability, he got added time the next game.  Brooks would be the same situation to a greater level.  On a team like ours trying to limit the minutes the vets have to play, Brooks could log 25-30 minutes a night.  JJJ isnt getting time because he isnt ready, and we dont need another PF...not because we dont play rookies.

Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 10:18:41 PM »

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Marshon Brooks.  By a long shot.

This kid has a chance to develop into an all star, and we let him slide by.  He's already a 20 point per game scorer, decent rebounder, passer, and ball handler.  Who knows what he'll be if he improves a couple years.

On the flip side, the player we got for him plays a position where we have a log jam, and has looked downright weak in the short time he has been given.

I'm not saying JJJ doesn't have a future, but I feel like it was known all along that Brooks could be more ready right now, and for a team built for right now, I'm disappointed we didnt stick with him.

Brooks is averaging 15 ppg for the Nets, not bad, but not a 20 ppg scorer either. If JJJ was on the Nets he may have been averaging 15 and 8 right now, who knows. This team is built for now this year, but this year is it. JJJ was a pick for the future. Also, do you really think Brooks would be playing over Ray, Paul, Pietrus, and Daniels with Doc as a coach? No way, his stats would look a lot like JJJ's stats if he had been on the celtics this year.

His average has been climbing, and would be substantially higher if he started the year playing as much as he was recently.  In starter minutes, I think it's fair to say he's already a 20 point a game scorer.  If JJJ was on the nets he would still be just as weak as he is for us, and to me that's what keeps him off the court above everything else.  

Brooks wouldnt need to play over Ray, Paul, or Pietrus to be a big time difference maker for us.  He would be taking Moores minutes, and some of Marquis and Bradleys.  A scorer like Brooks is going to get in the game for any team, with any coach thats trying to win.  On a team like ours, where bench scoring is often an issue...he'd be huge.  The only player on our team better than Brooks at creating his own offense, is Pierce.  

Moore and Bradley have both had games where they logged 20 minutes already.  After Moore played extended minutes once and showed offensive ability, he got added time the next game.  Brooks would be the same situation to a greater level.  On a team like ours trying to limit the minutes the vets have to play, Brooks could log 25-30 minutes a night.  JJJ isnt getting time because he isnt ready, and we dont need another PF...not because we dont play rookies.


I still disagree, but who knows? Time will tell who the better player is.

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 10:48:05 PM »

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Dunno why people are disappointed with Dooling.
He's missed some games but he's been very good for us when he's played. A few games at the beginning he was a bit lost on offense but his outside shooting has helped us spread the floor.
He is also an above average 1v1 defender and I'm happy to have him come in and replace Ray or Rondo.
Think about how many threes he's hit- he's a better version of Moore in my opinion.
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Re: Our biggest 'disappointment ' so far? harrrr
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 10:51:05 PM »

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dooling showed up in that miami game defiantly.
and he can be injured now,as long as he's ready for the playoffs that's all that matters just like delonte.
1. Did he show up at any other time. That matters because it proves consistency.
2. I don't like signing players to not play half the season and only w8 till the playoffs...

Yeah, he did. He gave us spurts of points in the form of 3's like Nate did plus he has size and knows how to use it. From what I've seen, he's a pretty consistent scorer off the bench.

Dooling has been driving me crazy
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I couldn't agree with main post more, Dolling, while has shown flashes of streaky outside shooting, has played a total of 175 minutes for us this year and has 18 turnovers. He often seems out of control with the ball and is a turnover waiting to happen. On the flip side Avery Bradley has played 100 minutes more than Dooling and only has 1 more turnover than him... I'm fine with Avery or E'Twan playing back-up point.

Deal him, cut him, or burying him on the bench would all be acceptable to me. With all the injuries I would have rather rolled the dice again with Delonte. Sorry Keyon, make way for the young blood on this team.
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