AVERY BRADLEY was the one who sparked our winning streak

[TA9]

Adore him! His offense will come someday just wait and see

[nickagneta]

 In fact, Moore was the PG of the big runs and the guy who played the majority of the fourth which speaks volumes about Doc's trust in Avery.   Also, the game tightened back up when Bradley came in the fourth.

I know you don't like the kid but when you make statements about the game at the very least don't make up fairy tales.

To begin the 2nd half the C's were up 6. When Moore came in for Bradley with 1:23 left in the 3rd the C's were up 10.

Moore then played until 5:18 was left in the game and the C's were up only 8.

Bradley finished the game.

So Doc used Bradley as a starter playing almost all the third quarter and to finish the game. Doc almost always plays his best players to finish games that aren't blowouts. That denotes who he trusts.

The run the C's went on while Moore was in there they gave back while Moore was in there.

Moore didn't play the majority of the 4th quarter. He played slightly more than Bradley did 6.5 minutes to 5.5 minutes.

These guys both played well last night. Not outstanding, not great, but well. Neither can really claim to have played much better than the other or that the team performed much better when he was in last night.

During these 4 games, Bradley defense was consistently excellent and Moore's was improving from poor to good. Bradley had one good offensive game and 3 below average. Moore had 1 great offensive game and 3 below average.

That's a pretty realistic look at what these guys have done over the past 4 games.

If you don't like Bradley that's cool but at least be factual.

[guava_wrench]

Hopefully after this run, when Doc tells Rondo to go full throttle and not conserve energy because Rondo has backups, he will do it.

[TripleOT]

I've been one of the biggest AB critics, but there's no denying that this kid's defense pressure has helped the Cs the last four games.

When teams have only 15 seconds to run sets, all the defense has to do is stop the initial one or two attacks and it's desperation time at the end of the shot clock.  Also, while Bradley is expending a ton of energy harassing the opposing PG, his teammates are basically resting the first half of a possession.  Instead of chasing some SG around three staggered screens for 15 seconds, a Celtics might have to do it for only 8-10seconds.  Less energy expended at the beginning of a defensive possession means more energy left at the end of it, the hit the defensive glass or to chase down long rebounds.  

I really don't care about AB's (horrible) offense right now.  As long as he can bring the ball up and get out of the way, that's good enough for how.  Bradley should be working on his corner threeball, because that shot's going to be there for him when Pierce is the point forward.  

[j804]

 In fact, Moore was the PG of the big runs and the guy who played the majority of the fourth which speaks volumes about Doc's trust in Avery.   Also, the game tightened back up when Bradley came in the fourth.

I know you don't like the kid but when you make statements about the game at the very least don't make up fairy tales.

To begin the 2nd half the C's were up 6. When Moore came in for Bradley with 1:23 left in the 3rd the C's were up 10.

Moore then played until 5:18 was left in the game and the C's were up only 8.

Bradley finished the game.

So Doc used Bradley as a starter playing almost all the third quarter and to finish the game. Doc almost always plays his best players to finish games that aren't blowouts. That denotes who he trusts.

The run the C's went on while Moore was in there they gave back while Moore was in there.

Moore didn't play the majority of the 4th quarter. He played slightly more than Bradley did 6.5 minutes to 5.5 minutes.

These guys both played well last night. Not outstanding, not great, but well. Neither can really claim to have played much better than the other or that the team performed much better when he was in last night.

During these 4 games, Bradley defense was consistently excellent and Moore's was improving from poor to good. Bradley had one good offensive game and 3 below average. Moore had 1 great offensive game and 3 below average.

That's a pretty realistic look at what these guys have done over the past 4 games.

If you don't like Bradley that's cool but at least be factual.

If only we could morph the 2 into one LOL

[OsirusCeltics]

I was always a Bradley fan, and happy his potential is finally being realized
I trust Bradely on defense more than Rondo, to be honest

[LooseCannon]

When Rondo comes back, if Doc is angry about his taking possessions off on defense, now he can stick Bradley in to prove a point.

He can tell Rondo to just give him 30 good minutes of all-out basketball.  When he takes it easy on defense or walks the ball up the court on offense, Doc will take that as a sign that Rondo is tired and he will stick Bradley in to harass the other team's point guard and give Rondo a couple of minutes of rest.  If Bradley is not showing improvement on offense, then you bring in a fresh Moore for that role in the second half against players who have hopefully been tired from battling Rondo and Bradley.

I'm fine with Rondo playing a gambling style trying to force turnovers, but I'd be happy to see his minutes reduced to 32-33 so it doesn't look like he is trying to pace himself so he has something left in the tank at the end of the game.

[rayallen1934]

Celtic fans on this board have the biggest knee jerk reactions out of any fanbase

Its actually funny

All of a sudden bradley is a good point guard

He's still way below average to me

[Celtics4ever]

I was not a Bradley fan either, BUT....seeing the ball pressure defense he's been applying reminds me of another guard from way back who played tenacious D and couldn't shoot a lick...#25 hangs from the rafters

KC Jones averaged 4 APG for his career, Bradley is hovering around one.   He also averaged four boards a game, Bradley does not.  But this is an insult to KC's passing.  Try another comparision that works this time.

I noticed that we did not pass to Bradley a lot in crunch time last night.  I saw PP look at him and pass the ball the other way.  Bradley also was not in when we made our run in the 2nd and early 4th quarters, Moore was folks.  I don't think his team mates trust him as much as some fans do.   They will throw him the ball for a layup but they are backing off that jumper which is absolutely horrible.  They know it too.

[LooseCannon]

KC Jones averaged 4 APG for his career, Bradley is hovering around one.   He also averaged four boards a game, Bradley does not.  But this is an insult to KC's passing.  Try another comparision that works this time.

Given that one played way more minutes per game, per game stats don't work well for a comparison.

Stats per 36 minutes played, career, via basketball-reference.com
Jones: 10.3 points, 6.0 assists, 4.9 rebounds
Bradley: 9.1 points, 2.8 assists, 4.1 rebounds

KC Jones clearly has better stats, but using these sorts of statistics is a fairer illustration of your point.  If Bradley were described as having the potential to be a poor man's KC Jones, would that be okay?

[Celtics4ever]

So now we use fictional minutes that a player isn't good enough to earn?  I am not a fan of stats per because there is a reason that he doesn't garner 36 mpg.   He makes bad decisions and can't shoot.

[LooseCannon]

I am not a fan of stats per because there is a reason that he doesn't garner 36 mpg.

I am a fan of such stats because there are players who don't get the minutes they deserve and players who get minutes they don't deserve.  Sometimes, coaches make the wrong decisions about who should get playing time.  If Bradley had great stats per 36 minutes (which he doesn't), but wasn't getting much playing time, that would be reasonable evidence that Doc isn't playing Bradley as much as he could.  You have to consider other variables, such as whether or a player is physically capable of playing extended minutes, but those numbers have value.

It's the same thing as comparing teams based on stats per 100 possessions rather than per game.

[BballTim]

So now we use fictional minutes that a player isn't good enough to earn?  I am not a fan of stats per because there is a reason that he doesn't garner 36 mpg.   He makes bad decisions and can't shoot.

  It's kind of a tradeoff though. If I score 5 points a game in 8 minutes and you score 10 a game in 32, are you a better scorer because you score twice as many points a game, or am I a better scorer because I score twice as many points a minute? I agree that it's easy to account for minutes but it's hard to account for the playing level of your teammates and opponents, but adjusting for minutes or not adjusting for minutes can both be equally misleading for different reasons.

[hardlyyardley]

I made no reference to KC's passing....only his shooting

Look at KC's stats early in his career when he and Sam sat behind Cousy and Sharman

[Celtics4ever]

KC was a much better passer than Bradley though.  Point taken though you did not mention his shooting.