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Re: PP Point Forward Offense
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 11:52:42 AM »

Offline guava_wrench

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Our improved play is due to defense. The offense has only been a few points better over a very limited sample size. Our defense has been often stifling.

Pierce's turnovers are a result of handling the ball more. This is nothing new and not unique to him. High risk, high reward.

Re: PP Point Forward Offense
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 11:53:26 AM »

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Get him more involved, but he can't be counted on to run everything. As good as he's looked he's still a turnover prone player. He's averaging 5.5 the last 3 games.

He's averaged 4.67 in the past 3 games.  Rondo is averaging 3.8 per game for the season.  Ray KG Rondo are all inconsistent.  I think Pierce has proven he's really the only one of those 4 who can really put the team on his back and carry them.  I hope the team recognizes that and gives him the ball more, and throw that Ubuntu crap out the window.  

Re: PP Point Forward Offense
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 11:57:26 AM »

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I prefer Rondo as a primary playmaker with the starters.  Paul's good at it, but Rondo's great at it.  Besides, Pierce is much more dangerous off the ball than Rondo.

I would like to see their minutes staggered more though.  Doc tends to keep Paul and Rondo together and use Ray with the bench.  That needs to stop.  One of Paul or Rondo should be on the floor at all times.

I concur with this.  Ray can't create and is a turnover machine.  He needs Rondo to set him up.  Pierce is our new back up point...

Yep.

Re: PP Point Forward Offense
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 12:26:24 PM »

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For some reason, the Big 4's offense hasn't really clicked in a long while. With only two of them on the floor the last four games, playing a two man game, things have become simpler.  Pierce has always been very good at initiating half court offense, and KG's mid range jumper had always been killer.

Add to that a deadly three point spot up guy like MP3, and a dead eye mid-range shooter like Bass, and that attack started to click.  Even Avery Bradley standing in the corner like a disciplined child hasn't hurt it too much, with AB cutting to the hoop a few times to receive baseline assists from Pierce when Bradley's man strayed too far in help defense. 

When Rondo and Ray Allen get back, hopefully Doc will switch things up a bit. There's no reason why Rondo needs to initiate offense 100% of the time in half court sets. Rondo would be excellent after receiving a pass from a driving Pierce, and then continuing on to either take a layup or drive against a broken down defense to kick the ball out for an open three from Ray Allen or lay the ball down to Bass for a dunk. 

Having three offensively oriented HOFers would naturally push a coach toward a team oriented attack, but the NBA has always need an isolation league.  If Doc has an advantage in a 1-3 high pick and roll set with Pierce and Rondo, why not run it to death until the defense stops it?

Or if Pierce and KG are getting it done, why not milk it? Team defenses are better than ever, and any play that gets your better match ups the ball on a particular possession is going to lead to efficient offense.  The way the Cs are playing defense again, that's going to lead to victories.       

Re: PP Point Forward Offense
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 12:55:54 PM »

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Get him more involved, but he can't be counted on to run everything. As good as he's looked he's still a turnover prone player. He's averaging 5.5 the last 3 games.

He's averaged 4.67 in the past 3 games.  Rondo is averaging 3.8 per game for the season.  Ray KG Rondo are all inconsistent.  I think Pierce has proven he's really the only one of those 4 who can really put the team on his back and carry them.  I hope the team recognizes that and gives him the ball more, and throw that Ubuntu crap out the window.  

  He had 3 turnovers in a blowout win and 5-6 a game in the 3 close games we've had. He's shown he can carry a team for the last few games, before that he was a liability for much of the time he was on the court. I don't see how that's consistent. He's playing great right now, though. Better than he's really played over most of the last 3 seasons or so. I hope he keeps it up through the finals this year, but I think it's likely that he'll go back to being a player who's good at times and great at times and needs others to carry the team during the times he doesn't.