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Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« on: January 25, 2012, 11:42:10 PM »

Offline Smokeeye123

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Seems like the best player out there that we could still have a chance to sign. Is he worth max money? I don't see the Hornets giving him the max...

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 12:02:42 AM »

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2013 and beyond is probably what we're looking forward to. As someone else said, we sign 1 year deals to basically postpone our decision to commit.

And no. Eric Gordon is going to be overpaid by someone (hopefully not us). He's good but not for the money he'll be paid.

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 12:09:18 AM »

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yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 12:19:12 AM »

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yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.
I like Monta, Tyreke and JSmoove.. It might be impossible to get Howard so Danny should just trade for players that can make us competitive now til next season and free the cap space for 2013..

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 12:28:26 AM »

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yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.

Most of these guys will be sure fire extended. Especially the young guys. I can see the old guys being FA but would we like to fill our roster with old dudes again? Just because their current contract is up at 2013 doesn't mean it'll be up.
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Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 12:34:23 AM »

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yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.

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Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 01:13:36 AM »

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what about Roy Hibbert? He'll be a RFA! But in saying that, we'd probably have to overpay to get him coz Pacers are bound to match reasonable offers......

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 02:03:07 AM »

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IMO Gordon is a max player (or very close) IF HE CAN GET HEALTHY.

Check out these two players:

Player #1:
23 years old
27.7 PPG, 19.7 FGA, 35% 3PT, 88% FT, 8.7 FTA, 2.7 APG, 6.8 RPG, 1.0 BLK, 1.1 STL, 2.8 TO

Player #2:
23 years old
24.1 PPG, 17.4 FGA, 36% 3PT, 82% FT, 7.2 FTA, 4.5 APG, 3.1 RPG, 0.3 BLK, 1.3 STL, 2.6 TO

The first is Kevin Durant, last year.
The second is Eric Gordon, pre All-Star break last year (injury issues after).

Obviously the injuries matter, but if Kevin Durant is a totally obvious max player, how far behind is Eric Gordon really??

If I were to put a number on him, I'd say a healthy Gordon is more like a $13-$15M / year guy, but if you have no bad contracts on the books and you have a chance to lock down a 23-year-old star you have to consider going to the max.

Ask yourself this... who is the best 2-guard in the league, 25 years or younger?

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2012, 02:10:09 AM »

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yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.

Most of these guys will be sure fire extended. Especially the young guys. I can see the old guys being FA but would we like to fill our roster with old dudes again? Just because their current contract is up at 2013 doesn't mean it'll be up.

Some will, not all. One of the OKC guys will surely be gone, maybe both if teams offer 8 figure deals annually.  Paul agreed to opt out after 2013, who knows what he's thinking....GSW can't commit to both Monta and Curry. Denver will probably keep Lawson but they need  to be careful they're adding a lot of salary with Affalo, Nene, Gallo, someone is going to go...Jennings project has failed in Milwaukee he will leave.....Collison is replaceable although likely stays imo.....Sacramento isn't using tyreke right at all and they're struggling so he could leave....derozan will stay imo but everyone hates canada...the other guards are all UFA's

Griffin(staying) Taj (questionable with CHI already locking in their key guys, he or asik is going)Ibaka (could leave)and Hickson are the only RFA's out of the F-C....some will get extended, but i guarantee you the FA pool in July 2013 will be a hell of a lot deeper than it will this July.

yes, a new owner will be brought in by that time, and even if EG wants to leave the new guy will match anything

go for 2013.....you have CP3, Curry, Collison, Lawson, Jennings, Lowry, Harris, Calderon, Jameer, Monta, Lou Will, Iggy, K-Mart, Tyreke, DeRozan, Harden, Crawford, Manu, S-Jax, JJ, Morrow, Smoove, GForce, Marion, Wright, RJ, MWP, Ariza, Griffin, Taj, Brand, Blair, Hickson, Bass, Ibaka, Millsap, Odom, Al Jeff, , Meka, Bynum, Duncan, etc.
I like Monta, Tyreke and JSmoove.. It might be impossible to get Howard so Danny should just trade for players that can make us competitive now til next season and free the cap space for 2013..
Yup, and I wonder if taking on guys  like Shard/Brand who have big contracts expiring in 2013 will get us an asset or two.

Monta with Rondo and Avery as a backcourt rotation could be filthy....

I'm a big fan of Tyreke (Ainge is too, he was going to trade Ray for the #6 pick if Evans fell) and if he can get his game together he can be a star. If he gets a jumper he's a perfect fit on this team

Everyone has been talking about smoove so i don't think i need to mention him lol.

BTW, poster above, G-Force=Gerald Wallace

and I wouldn't touch Hibbert and his probable asking price (13 i'd assume) with a 10 foot pole. Indy can have him

Re: Eric Gordon, the only choice left?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 02:11:26 AM »

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IMO Gordon is a max player (or very close) IF HE CAN GET HEALTHY.

Check out these two players:

Player #1:
23 years old
27.7 PPG, 19.7 FGA, 35% 3PT, 88% FT, 8.7 FTA, 2.7 APG, 6.8 RPG, 1.0 BLK, 1.1 STL, 2.8 TO

Player #2:
23 years old
24.1 PPG, 17.4 FGA, 36% 3PT, 82% FT, 7.2 FTA, 4.5 APG, 3.1 RPG, 0.3 BLK, 1.3 STL, 2.6 TO

The first is Kevin Durant, last year.
The second is Eric Gordon, pre All-Star break last year (injury issues after).

Obviously the injuries matter, but if Kevin Durant is a totally obvious max player, how far behind is Eric Gordon really??

If I were to put a number on him, I'd say a healthy Gordon is more like a $13-$15M / year guy, but if you have no bad contracts on the books and you have a chance to lock down a 23-year-old star you have to consider going to the max.

Ask yourself this... who is the best 2-guard in the league, 25 years or younger?

You're making it seem a lot easier than it really is lol...of course we'd take EG, problem is NOH can match, and my gut says he'll sign the offer sheet with Indy being a Hoosier and growing up there

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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 02:55:02 AM »

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I dont think anybody should really get theyre hopes up about restricterd free agents. Its something to hope for but not to hold your breath for.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 03:13:31 AM »

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You're making it seem a lot easier than it really is lol...of course we'd take EG, problem is NOH can match, and my gut says he'll sign the offer sheet with Indy being a Hoosier and growing up there

Not sure where I said it would be easy to get him. I'm just sayin', people don't realize how good he is. With no bad contracts on the books and only 3 days to match, why not see if we can make Rondo / Gordon our backcourt for the next 5 years? I doubt we'll be missing much in those 3 days if Gordon signs the offer sheet, and we can always be prepared to work a S&T instead.

Say we offer him a 4 year max deal, NO calls and says "we're gonna match, but we're willing to deal him to you for Pierce and both your 1st rounders". Do you do it? Do you call their bluff?

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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 06:49:00 AM »

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You're making it seem a lot easier than it really is lol...of course we'd take EG, problem is NOH can match, and my gut says he'll sign the offer sheet with Indy being a Hoosier and growing up there

Not sure where I said it would be easy to get him. I'm just sayin', people don't realize how good he is. With no bad contracts on the books and only 3 days to match, why not see if we can make Rondo / Gordon our backcourt for the next 5 years? I doubt we'll be missing much in those 3 days if Gordon signs the offer sheet, and we can always be prepared to work a S&T instead.

Say we offer him a 4 year max deal, NO calls and says "we're gonna match, but we're willing to deal him to you for Pierce and both your 1st rounders". Do you do it? Do you call their bluff?

Imo Eric Gordon is way too injury prone to give up that much.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 10:13:08 AM »

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Celtic Nation should be ecstatic if we can team up Rondo and Gordon as our backcourt.  It's not likely as I believe New Orleans will match any offer, but it'd be awesome.

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 10:26:17 AM »

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IMO Gordon is a max player (or very close) IF HE CAN GET HEALTHY.

I agree when healthy he is the perfect SG to play next to rondo. He is a young go to scorer who can create his own shot. Together they would form the best back court in the NBA for at least the next 5 years (westbrook and harden would be 2nd best). However health is a big thing.


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