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How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« on: January 25, 2012, 03:24:56 AM »

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The resigning of Jason Richardson for that money especially with the uncertainty of keeping Howard ? Is he worth 24 million?
The Bass trade looks awful so far for them, we won that pretty easily.
Now they are not looking to resign Ryan Anderson ? So it's okay to keep Duhon,QRich and Jameer but not resign Anderson ? Why did you sign/trade all of these awful contracts ?

I don't even think they will keep Redick, Turkoglu is unmovable unless he was packaged with Howard. The more I think about it the more likely it is they will just allow him to walk without getting anything for him, not even a sign and trade.

Completely messed up that team, surprised he hasn't been fired yet! And no wonder Howard want's out,can't blame him for it.

I hate divas and players nagging and wanting to leave their teams, but they have really put him in an awful situation that's not going to improve and bring in some talent.

Re: How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 03:48:54 AM »

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I read somewhere that they got BBD because Howard wanted him/is good friends with him. I think they resigned JRich pretty much under Howards orders!

Otis really stuffed up when he broke that team up a couple of years ago, bringing in VC etc.....Courtney Lee said Howard was irate about that.....they were an alley oop away from having very different fortunes and Otis essentially ships everyone out of town? crazy!

on a sidenote, I wouldn't mind JJ!

Re: How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 04:02:51 AM »

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This is what happens when you have bad ownership. In this case, a lack of accountability from the head of the organization.

This is why Orlando isn't a Championship caliber organization. They don't have the ownership and the owner hasn't been committed enough to building a top class front office. Two very important leadership positions with sub-standard (Championship level) quality.

Richie DeVos needs to do better.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 04:18:04 AM »

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Would love to get our hands on Anderson.
He had a shocking game against us the other night, but he is the closest thing to the next Dirk Nowitzki in my opinion.

If we could get Anderson and James Harden and some early picks for 2014 when Nerlens Noel is up for draft I'd be very happy.
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Re: How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 05:05:18 AM »

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I'd love to have Redick in Boston. He's no Ray Allen but he can play the same role as Ray does here.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 06:20:22 AM »

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Surprised you guys havent mentioned trading away gortat....**That was a rather large blunder indeed. (Michael Caine Accent)**


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Re: How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 10:55:27 AM »

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Let's remember Orlando made the Finals a couple years ago, and the Courtney Lee / Ryan Anderson trade seems to have worked out very well for the Magic.

Even good GMs do really dumb things when they're desperate to convince their superstar to stay (see what happened with Danny Ferry and the Cavs).
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 10:59:15 AM »

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They sign J Rich and BBD for all those years, but won't re-sign their 2nd best player.  yes, NBA common sense is not so common...

They didn't need a new CBA - they needed to give each GM and owner brain transplants... :)

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 11:02:25 AM »

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To be fair - if I'm the Magic, and I'm thinking that Dwight Howard is probably not going to resign with the team I'm probably hesitant to tie up too much money to a complimentary player like Ryan Anderson.

Say what you will about J-Rich, but I think that's an OK contract that would be relatively easy to unload if they had/wanted to.

No defense for BBD though, and several other terrible moves this organization has made.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 11:10:35 AM »

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To be fair - if I'm the Magic, and I'm thinking that Dwight Howard is probably not going to resign with the team I'm probably hesitant to tie up too much money to a complimentary player like Ryan Anderson.

Say what you will about J-Rich, but I think that's an OK contract that would be relatively easy to unload if they had/wanted to.

No defense for BBD though, and several other terrible moves this organization has made.

Agreed..to an extent.  They knew this Dwight thing was coming to a head BEFORE they gave J Rich and BBD those contracts.  The stupid thing was this: trying to appease Dwight.  They basically kissed his hind end by signing guys and now he sticks his nose up at them.  This is why NO PLAYER should ever hold a franchise hostage. 

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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 11:14:54 AM »

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To be fair - if I'm the Magic, and I'm thinking that Dwight Howard is probably not going to resign with the team I'm probably hesitant to tie up too much money to a complimentary player like Ryan Anderson.

Say what you will about J-Rich, but I think that's an OK contract that would be relatively easy to unload if they had/wanted to.

No defense for BBD though, and several other terrible moves this organization has made.

Agreed..to an extent.  They knew this Dwight thing was coming to a head BEFORE they gave J Rich and BBD those contracts.  The stupid thing was this: trying to appease Dwight.  They basically kissed his hind end by signing guys and now he sticks his nose up at them.  This is why NO PLAYER should ever hold a franchise hostage. 

But what's the problem signing J-Rich here? It's not a poor basketball decision, and he doesn't really kill them on the books. He's a valuable player that helps this team win, and could help power them through a round 1 victory in the playoffs which translates into money. And again he's relatively unloadable (IE: my guess is that the C's would jump at the opportunity to have him for JO's expiring)

Again, I think the Magic have made a boat load of terrible decisions but I think the Richardson one is fine.

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 11:24:09 AM »

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Surprised you guys havent mentioned trading away gortat....**That was a rather large blunder indeed. (Michael Caine Accent)**

I'm not sure what Gortat's contract situation was during his last year in ORL, but he going to leave anyways.  No matter what ORL was going to offer he wanted to start somewhere.  So I wouldn't call it a blunder. 

Anyways the team is 12-5 and I could only dream the C's were in that position right now.  Regardless of what the organization did DH12 was heading out that door.  The only possibility of that not happening was if players like CP3 or D-Will wanted to go to ORL, but it's not a popular FA destination. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 11:27:39 AM »

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To be fair - if I'm the Magic, and I'm thinking that Dwight Howard is probably not going to resign with the team I'm probably hesitant to tie up too much money to a complimentary player like Ryan Anderson.

Say what you will about J-Rich, but I think that's an OK contract that would be relatively easy to unload if they had/wanted to.

No defense for BBD though, and several other terrible moves this organization has made.

Agreed..to an extent.  They knew this Dwight thing was coming to a head BEFORE they gave J Rich and BBD those contracts.  The stupid thing was this: trying to appease Dwight.  They basically kissed his hind end by signing guys and now he sticks his nose up at them.  This is why NO PLAYER should ever hold a franchise hostage. 

But what's the problem signing J-Rich here? It's not a poor basketball decision, and he doesn't really kill them on the books. He's a valuable player that helps this team win, and could help power them through a round 1 victory in the playoffs which translates into money. And again he's relatively unloadable (IE: my guess is that the C's would jump at the opportunity to have him for JO's expiring)

Again, I think the Magic have made a boat load of terrible decisions but I think the Richardson one is fine.

But how many spot-up shooters does one team need?  I understand it did help them get to the finals a few years ago, but with teams like Chicago and Miami now vying for finals trips i just don't think that formula will work again.

Anderson/Richardson/Reddick/Turk/Q-Rich/Baby.  I know you need to have people that can hit jump shots when Dwight gets doubled, but who on that team can effectievly create for themselves at this point? That's too much responsibility on Jameer Nelson.

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Re: How can Orlando allow such incompetence from Otis Smith ?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »

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But how many spot-up shooters does one team need?  I understand it did help them get to the finals a few years ago, but with teams like Chicago and Miami now vying for finals trips i just don't think that formula will work again.

But I look at saying this regarding Jason Richardson is a lot like when people say something like "fire the coach!" or "break up the big three!" In that, OK, that's fine to say - but what's the alternative

So, fine. Don't bring back Jason Richardson - what do you do now?


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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 11:39:47 AM »

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Again, I feel the need to stress this. Otis Smith has done a miserable job in Orlando and should not have a job. Building around Dwight Howard shouldn't be a very difficult task.He's terrible. I just don't have any issues with him signing J-Rich