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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 10:08:16 AM »

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Um no, because he's not yet.  He needs a lot more good games in order to cancel out all the bad.  Who was the last legitimate player that you can recall who averaged 3 points on 36% shooting, 10% from 3, and 58% from the line?

We always knew he could play this type of defense, ever since his first game.  Nothing new.  We also know he's among the bottom 5 worst offensive players when he's on the court.  Now there's no reason we can't have hope, because we know he's good in practice, but until he replicates that during real games he's not a legitimate player.  

I mean people complained to no end about an injured Tony Allen, and Bradley brings all the same over-thinking, turnovers, and lack of confidence without any of the streaky and explosive high-percentage scoring.  Not to mention less versatile defense and he's worse at keeping his man in front of him.

Now is it possible that we're just pulling less of our hair out because Pierce has played PG the past two games instead of AB?
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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2012, 10:13:22 AM »

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I watched him fo 2-7 with 3 assists in 30 minutes of action in what most would consider one of his better games of the season.

So no, I don't see any way you could arrive at that conclusion

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2012, 10:13:52 AM »

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Best defensive point guard I have ever seen in the green will always be Marcus Banks. He was a nightmare on defender up and down the court. It was crazy.
Yeah, if there's one guy I can't believe didn't make it, it's Banks.  He brought so much energy to the game, and I loved how he could get from the foul line to the opposing basket with just 3 dribbles, you hardly ever see guys do that.
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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2012, 10:14:01 AM »

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  The key is Doc needs to continue to give AB minutes once Ray, Dooling and Rondo come back healthy.  I'm not that impressed with Dooling thus far.  Maybe there is something I am missing.  

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2012, 10:14:36 AM »

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I'll agree to legit prospect

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2012, 10:16:46 AM »

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I watched him fo 2-7 with 3 assists in 30 minutes of action in what most would consider one of his better games of the season.

So no, I don't see any way you could arrive at that conclusion

  His ball pressure was the difference in the game.  He completely took Orlando's offense out of rhythm.   

  He is a very, very good defensive player who could be great.  That in and of itself makes him a viable NBA player.

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2012, 10:19:01 AM »

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He is on his way to being a good role player. 


You need high pressure defense on the ball, he is your man. 


He needs to continue to develop on the offensive end to earn a bigger role.

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2012, 10:23:38 AM »

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People who don't agree with the OP should wonder: Are there any teams in the NBA that could NOT use Bradley as a defensive stopper of the bench? Maybe a few, but I bet most teams would at least like the option to change the game that way.

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2012, 10:24:33 AM »

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He reminds me of Don Chaney back in the 1970s. Chaney and Jo Jo White were a great backcourt combo. I enjoyed those games against Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe of the Knicks way back when Tommy Heinsohn was the coach.
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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2012, 10:29:16 AM »

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He is on his way to being a good role player. 


You need high pressure defense on the ball, he is your man. 


He needs to continue to develop on the offensive end to earn a bigger role.

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Defense gets you on the floor. Offense comes to you with practice and experience.
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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2012, 10:35:24 AM »

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The funny part was everyone calling for Moore to eat up his minutes. Moore is shooting 24% from the field and 14% from 3 with his increased playing time.  Hows that working out?

Neither guy can run the offense, and both can't buy a bucket (at this point), but at least AB brings it on the defensive end.

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2012, 10:50:39 AM »

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Um no, because he's not yet.  He needs a lot more good games in order to cancel out all the bad.  Who was the last legitimate player that you can recall who averaged 3 points on 36% shooting, 10% from 3, and 58% from the line?

We always knew he could play this type of defense, ever since his first game.  Nothing new.  We also know he's among the bottom 5 worst offensive players when he's on the court.  Now there's no reason we can't have hope, because we know he's good in practice, but until he replicates that during real games he's not a legitimate player.  

I mean people complained to end about an injured Tony, and Bradley brings all the same over-thinking, turnovers, and lack of confidence without any of the streaky and explosive high-percentage scoring.  Not to mention less versatile defense and he's worse at keeping his man in front of him.

Now is it possible that we're just pulling less of our hair out because Pierce has played PG the past two games instead of AB?
This rite here while he played great pressure D last night he has a tendency to get blown by because he plays so close to his man nd his inept offense has already been discussed as of right now he's lookin like a Eric Snow 2.0 but we'll see wat happens

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2012, 10:54:05 AM »

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I think if you include last years Knicks game, Bradley is 3-1 as a starter.

I don't see what there is not to like in Bradley.  Clearly he is developing more slowly than you would like but I don't feel that is an indication of what his ceiling is.  He is still kind of up-tight out there.  He has the first step, he has the explosion, and he has a nice stroke.  I feel his only issue is nerves or whatever you would call it.  I think that is something he can overcome and then watch out.  The ball will start going in the hoop and evenutally, I think he will be an adequate passer as well.

Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2012, 10:56:10 AM »

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Re: Can we admit that Avery Bradley is a legit NBA player now?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2012, 11:10:08 AM »

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  If Bradley continues to EARN minutes it should be at the expense of Dooling IMO.  Neither can run the offense.  Dolling is a better shooter but Bradley is a better defender, quicker and adds much needed energy/athleticism to the bench.  Once everyone is healthy there are limited minutes available to the 4th guard.  I'd much rather see them going to Bradley then Dooling.