Celtics currently holding the 8th playoff spot!

[ben]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

[nicknorman]

Its all up from here

[LarBrd33]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

Whoopty freakin doo... another one of those years.

In 1994-95 we made the playoffs with a 35-47 record ... the Magic made short work of us 3-1 in the first round.


In 2003-04 we made the playoffs with a 36-46 record ... Pacers swept us 4-0.  

The problem, to me is this...

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.  Kevin Garnett was the 5th pick that year, btw.  I'm just saying.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs.  

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.


Right now we have 6 wins.  Great...  the 8th worst team in the league also has only 6 wins... in other words... we'd have the 8th best shot of winning the lotto.  But we're sitting as the 7th seed... we'd be stuck with the 16th pick in the draft... not worth getting swept if you ask me.

[Celtics18]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

Whoopty freakin doo... another one of those years.

In 1994-95 we made the playoffs with a 35-47 record ... the Magic made short work of us 3-1 in the first round.


In 2003-04 we made the playoffs with a 36-46 record ... Pacers swept us 4-0.  

The problem, to me is this...

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs.  

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.

Despite our 6 and 9 start, this team is way better than the '95 team or the '04 team.  Danny's not going to blow it up to tank this season, anyway.  I hate to dash your hopes. 

[LarBrd33]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

Whoopty freakin doo... another one of those years.

In 1994-95 we made the playoffs with a 35-47 record ... the Magic made short work of us 3-1 in the first round.


In 2003-04 we made the playoffs with a 36-46 record ... Pacers swept us 4-0.  

The problem, to me is this...

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs.  

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.

Despite our 6 and 9 start, this team is way better than the '95 team or the '04 team.  Danny's not going to blow it up to tank this season, anyway.  I hate to dash your hopes.  

I'll give you that.  This team is better than the 6-9 start.  So far they have beat the 2-14 Wizards three times ... they have beat the 4-13 Pistons.  They have beat 5-12 New Jersey and 4-13 Toronto (without their best player)...  Great... our 4 allstars are just good enough to beat the garbage teams of the league.

In what world does an aging team starting Jermaine Oneal at center contend for a title?  It's not happening.  I'd rather we blow it up and prepare for the future.  I hate to destroy your hopes.

[Celtics18]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

Whoopty freakin doo... another one of those years.

In 1994-95 we made the playoffs with a 35-47 record ... the Magic made short work of us 3-1 in the first round.


In 2003-04 we made the playoffs with a 36-46 record ... Pacers swept us 4-0.  

The problem, to me is this...

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs.  

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.

Despite our 6 and 9 start, this team is way better than the '95 team or the '04 team.  Danny's not going to blow it up to tank this season, anyway.  I hate to dash your hopes.  

I'll give you that.  This team is better than the 6-9 start.  So far they have beat the 2-14 Wizards three times ... they have beat the 4-13 Pistons.  They have beat 5-12 New Jersey and 4-13 Toronto (without their best player)...  Great... our 4 allstars are just good enough to beat the garbage teams of the league.

In what world does an aging team starting Jermaine Oneal at center contend for a title?  It's not happening.  I'd rather we blow it up and prepare for the future.  I hate to destroy your hopes.

You have done nothing of the kind.  I'm just pointing out that I think Danny would make a move if he thought it made the team better.  He's said as much.  However, I find it very unlikely that he'll get rid of any of our core players in a tank/picks/cap space clearing move. 

[CeIticsFan18]

I just want to point out 2 things about the 1995 and 2004 teams. That 1995 team was the end of an era, it was the final games at legendary Boston Garden. The original big 3 and Reggie were gone. The Celtics made a run at the end of the season and split the 1st 2 games in Orlando, ending the magic's long home winning streak in the process, also the 2 games at The Garden went right down to the wire. the Celtics had leads in both games with about 2 minutes to go, if the Celtics pull both home games out, they win the series(best of 5)so they could have gone on a magical playoff run in the final season at Boston Garden, i feel for that team, it was well worth making the playoffs rather than get a 10th pick in the draft because of the immense ramifications it potentially had. The 2004 team was the team that should have made the lottery, it was a mixed up team with Pierce and nothing else, the Eastern Conference finals team was broken up with o'brien fired and replaced with a combination of ricky davis, jiri welsch and chucky atkins. That team needed a fresh start, in a way not starting over right after that season cost the Celtics till 2007 of putting together a solid contending core instead of a talented kiddie group ainge put together and almost forced pierce to want out of town. Obviously it paid off with the 2008 Title, but starting earlier might have led to more success instead of a smaller window. I feel if this team makes a 6-8 seed, if they are healthy, will be primed for an upset, especially if they feel that this is their final run thru the playoffs. Weird things could happen in a shortened season, and getting the heat or bulls in the 1st round could be easier than in the eastern finals after 2 long playoff series with everyone tired. My 1st post here, so I thought id give out some thoughts haha. The website rocks, Go Celtics!

[BlountTrauma30]

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.  Kevin Garnett was the 5th pick that year, btw.  I'm just saying.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs.  

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.

Going back to 1995, if we were to pick based on record rather than the actual draft lottery order going to the draft, we would have ended up with the Mavs draft spot (10th worst record minus the teams in the playoffs), which would have given us the 12th pick instead of the 14th.  We probably would have still selected Eric Williams at that spot, but I don't think it would've made a difference long-term if we took Cherokee Parks or Corliss Williamson instead of him.  We had no chance at getting KG.

In 2004, the team with the 10th best odds of landing Dwight was either the Sonics or the Warriors (they had the same record).  Those teams selected Robert Swift and Andris Biedrens respectively.  Knowing Ainge, we're lucky we got the 15th pick because he probably would've picked Swift.  If that happened, we never would've gotten KG and we wouldn't have a 17th banner.

The Celts have a better chance at winning a title with this group than they do by tanking themselves out of the playoffs and hoping the lottery works out.

[mqtcelticsfan]

I don't see the appeal in tanking this season. The draft isn't so great that we'll be missing out on our future if we don't pick in the top 10. No transcendent talents like LeBron or Rose except for maybe Davis, Drummond or if he's lucky, Barnes.

Further, I don't see any possibility of missing the playoffs this year. I can't name 8 teams that would seem to have any possibility of beating us out in the East. There's Miami, Chicago, Orlando, Atlanta, Philly, New York and Indiana.  Those 7 are ahead of us at the moment, leaving us at 8. I just don't see any set of circumstance leading to any other team in the east overtaking Boston.

[greenpride32]

Amazing we are direclty behind the Miami Heat of all teams in the conference standings; though there is quite a disparity in records.

[PosImpos]

link:  http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Div.html

and with only 6 and 9 record

and better still, the lakers are currently out of the playoffs with a 10 and 8 record.  Fun how that works out eh  sweet!  let's go celtics, pull it together!

Whoopty freakin doo... another one of those years.

In 1994-95 we made the playoffs with a 35-47 record ... the Magic made short work of us 3-1 in the first round.


In 2003-04 we made the playoffs with a 36-46 record ... Pacers swept us 4-0. 

The problem, to me is this...

In 95 we ended had the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 14th pick.  Certainly 4 spots isn't that big of a deal, but you never know how the ping pong balls are gonna bounce.  I would have rather had 10th best odds at winning the lotto than taking that waste of time playoff spot.

Same thing in 2004.  Ended up having the 10th worst record, but because of our waste of a playoff appearance, we were stuck with the 15th pick.  In this case, it kinda worked out... we ended up getting Al Jefferson with that pick.  But... I would have liked having the 10th best odds of winning the Dwight Howard lotto than watching that scrub team get beaten down by Indiana in the playoffs. 

Not to mention... both of those years had they lost a few more games, they would have had a pick higher than #10.    I don't see the point in getting swept by Chicago or Miami this year. I'd rather we just blow it up and try to land a top 5 pick.

Despite our 6 and 9 start, this team is way better than the '95 team or the '04 team.  Danny's not going to blow it up to tank this season, anyway.  I hate to dash your hopes. 

While I agree that our team is probably better than the 6-9 start, and I think we can expect the team to win at least half their games, I also can't dispute that making the playoffs as a 6-8 seed and getting beaten in 4-6 games by a much deeper / younger / more talented opponent doesn't do much good for this team's future.

We would certainly be better off getting a lottery pick, even a late one.  If we did get a late lottery pick, we could combine that with the Clips pick and maybe another pick that we get in a trade and move up a few spots in the draft (similar to what Charlotte did in the last draft).

[Q_FBE]

I am not even looking at the standings. I am looking at one game at a time and looking for signs of hope and improvement from anyone who puts on the Green uniform. The expectations have been lowered considerably since Christmas Day and I suspect we are on the wrong side of the war of attrition.

Take yesterday for example:

It is clear that KG has regressed a lot physically and he looks like he is playing hurt. Doc might be wise to pull him out for two weeks and give others a chance. Maybe that will happen if Wilcox comes back. Paul Pierce played well yesterday but when is his foot gonna give out on him. Ray Allen busted an ankle on a Bernie Pollard style foulpick by a Pizzard. Jermaine O'Neal simply stinks right now. Marquis Daniels ain't much better. Avery Bradley looks like he won't amount to much. We don't know much about the Perdue rookies except they haven't had the benefit of a summer league and full training camp which retarded their development. They cannot be expected to step in and backfill for other frontliners.

Basically I don't believe the Celtics are capable of winning the division which means at worst a three seed. I want to see matchups against Philly and Orlando to see if we are capable of competing against good teams. Yesterday was a win against a crappy basketball team for the third time this year. Does that mean our record is actually inflated??? 3 and 0 against the Pizzards and 3 and 9 against everyone else does not inspire confidence in this team.

[vinnie]

I am not even looking at the standings. I am looking at one game at a time and looking for signs of hope and improvement from anyone who puts on the Green uniform. The expectations have been lowered considerably since Christmas Day and I suspect we are on the wrong side of the war of attrition.

Take yesterday for example:

It is clear that KG has regressed a lot physically and he looks like he is playing hurt. Doc might be wise to pull him out for two weeks and give others a chance. Maybe that will happen if Wilcox comes back. Paul Pierce played well yesterday but when is his foot gonna give out on him. Ray Allen busted an ankle on a Bernie Pollard style foulpick by a Pizzard. Jermaine O'Neal simply stinks right now. Marquis Daniels ain't much better. Avery Bradley looks like he won't amount to much. We don't know much about the Perdue rookies except they haven't had the benefit of a summer league and full training camp which retarded their development. They cannot be expected to step in and backfill for other frontliners.

Basically I don't believe the Celtics are capable of winning the division which means at worst a three seed. I want to see matchups against Philly and Orlando to see if we are capable of competing against good teams. Yesterday was a win against a crappy basketball team for the third time this year. Does that mean our record is actually inflated??? 3 and 0 against the Pizzards and 3 and 9 against everyone else does not inspire confidence in this team.

A 3 seed 

[Celtics4ever]

All the talk of resting the starters has really been moot.  KG, PP  both got little rest and had to play against Washington one of the worst teams in the league.  That speaks volumes to me about our situation.  32 and 36 minutes is too much for these guys and will hurt us tonight.

[PosImpos]

I am not even looking at the standings. I am looking at one game at a time and looking for signs of hope and improvement from anyone who puts on the Green uniform. The expectations have been lowered considerably since Christmas Day and I suspect we are on the wrong side of the war of attrition.

Take yesterday for example:

It is clear that KG has regressed a lot physically and he looks like he is playing hurt. Doc might be wise to pull him out for two weeks and give others a chance. Maybe that will happen if Wilcox comes back. Paul Pierce played well yesterday but when is his foot gonna give out on him. Ray Allen busted an ankle on a Bernie Pollard style foulpick by a Pizzard. Jermaine O'Neal simply stinks right now. Marquis Daniels ain't much better. Avery Bradley looks like he won't amount to much. We don't know much about the Perdue rookies except they haven't had the benefit of a summer league and full training camp which retarded their development. They cannot be expected to step in and backfill for other frontliners.

Basically I don't believe the Celtics are capable of winning the division which means at worst a three seed. I want to see matchups against Philly and Orlando to see if we are capable of competing against good teams. Yesterday was a win against a crappy basketball team for the third time this year. Does that mean our record is actually inflated??? 3 and 0 against the Pizzards and 3 and 9 against everyone else does not inspire confidence in this team.

A 3 seed  

Yeah, I think he meant that the best the C's could do this year  without winning the division is the 3rd seed.  Judging by the tone of the post, he doesn't think we'll come close to that (and neither do I).