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Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2012, 07:06:43 PM »

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Paul Pierce looked to me like he's still an all star level player against the Wizards today. 

Thank you for the way you responded today, Captain.  He's heard the rumors, and instead of hanging his head and moping, he goes out and gives a gem like that.

That's why we love him and that's why he'll always be the truth. 
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Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2012, 07:08:08 PM »

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No player is bigger than the Team!!!!! Trade em one by one and let's get started now.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2012, 07:14:46 PM »

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Paul Pierce looked to me like he's still an all star level player against the Wizards today.  

Thank you for the way you responded today, Captain.  He's heard the rumors, and instead of hanging his head and moping, he goes out and gives a gem like that.

That's why we love him and that's why he'll always be the truth.  
His big game couldn't have come a moment sooner, either... he had been looking like he was washed up.  If he keeps playing this well, it will definitely help us trade him for an expiring contract and a 1st rounder.

Indiana will have to take a hard look at Pierce and decide, "Can this guy help us in the short term?"... performances like that will answer that question, "heck yes he can"... maybe they'll give us Paul George and 14 mil in cap space for him.

If he stinks it up on 33% shooting like he has been recently, they probably say "heck no are we giving up Paul George for that overpaid washed up bum".  Bottom line... we need Pierce to play well regardless if we plan on trading him.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2012, 07:16:46 PM »

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 This would be a shame for the Boston Celtics, Pierce is a legend, he is a institution in Boston, do not understand.

 Are we crazy?

 
I just don't have loyalty to pro athletes any more. I didn't leave them. They left me

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2012, 07:17:17 PM »

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Also, what exactly did the Sonics ever win with Ray Allen? Being an also ran is not worth trading Pierce for. Jordan won because the competition was lackluster. Pierce's celtics beat Kobe's lakers, with Pierce outplaying Kobe in that series.
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Okay Pierce's play in the finals was great, and he did deserve the MVP, but to dis Jordan's Bull's and his rings, becuase you think he had it easier all SIX times?! Give me a break!

 Jordan Beat LA,Portland,Utah,Phoenix,and Seattle. Not to mention having to go threw Detroit,NY,Indiana to get there.  I would take all of those teams in a Seven game series over the Heat or Bulls of today. Expecially if they played by the harder NBA rules of the 90's were you were allowed to actually play D.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2012, 07:19:08 PM »

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Speaking of JOrdan... he spent his last two years playing for the Wizards, but It's not like anyone thinks of him as anything other than a Chicago Bull.

Hakeem played for the Raptors, but he'll always be a Rocket.

Ewing played for the Sonics... but he'll always be a Knick.

If you can get value for Pierce now... you do it.  His legacy as a Celtic legend will go untouched.

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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2012, 07:23:55 PM »

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Speaking of JOrdan... he spent his last two years playing for the Wizards, but It's not like anyone thinks of him as anything other than a Chicago Bull.

Hakeem played for the Raptors, but he'll always be a Rocket.

Ewing played for the Sonics... but he'll always be a Knick.

If you can get value for Pierce now... you do it.  His legacy as a Celtic legend will go untouched.

Yup. This is true. Won't affect his legacy one bit.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2012, 07:24:30 PM »

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Speaking of JOrdan... he spent his last two years playing for the Wizards, but It's not like anyone thinks of him as anything other than a Chicago Bull.

Hakeem played for the Raptors, but he'll always be a Rocket.

Ewing played for the Sonics... but he'll always be a Knick.

If you can get value for Pierce now... you do it.  His legacy as a Celtic legend will go untouched.

Very good point.

A more modern example -- I think everybody will think of Chauncey as a Piston despite his playing for the Nuggets, Knicks, and Clippers, and Rip as a Piston despite joining up with the Bulls.

Payton is thought of as a Sonic despite playing for the Heat at the end of his career.

Malone is remembered as a member of the Jazz despite playing for the Lakers at the end.
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2012, 07:28:29 PM »

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Speaking of JOrdan... he spent his last two years playing for the Wizards, but It's not like anyone thinks of him as anything other than a Chicago Bull.

Hakeem played for the Raptors, but he'll always be a Rocket.

Ewing played for the Sonics... but he'll always be a Knick.

If you can get value for Pierce now... you do it.  His legacy as a Celtic legend will go untouched.

To elaborate on that:

In 2000, Ewing left the Knicks as part of a trade to the Seattle SuperSonics. In the trade, the Knicks sent Ewing to Seattle and Chris Dudley to Phoenix, and received Glen Rice, Luc Longley, Travis Knight, Vladimir Stepania, Lazaro Borrell, Vernon Maxwell, two first-round draft picks (from the Los Angeles Lakers and Seattle) and two second-round draft picks from Seattle. After a year with the Sonics and another with the Orlando Magic, he announced his retirement on September 18, 2002.


Hakeem was traded for two draft picks (the highest being the #15 pick) and after averaging career lows was out of the league within a year.

Would you rather get value for Pierce now or go the Chicago route?... losing Jordan for nothing and having a decade of irrelevance?

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2012, 09:57:04 PM »

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 This would be a shame for the Boston Celtics, Pierce is a legend, he is a institution in Boston, do not understand.

 Are we crazy?

 
I just don't have loyalty to pro athletes any more. I didn't leave them. They left me

I'm sorry to hear that.  It must not be very much fun anymore then.  Paul Pierce has certainly never left me, and I hope he never does. 
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2012, 10:03:50 PM »

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This is harsh, but true...

The hardest part about trading Pierce to me is this... I grew up watching him play.  He's been my favorite player.  The majority of his career we stunk, but I still loved watching him.  

Here's the bombshell... revisionist history will look at this Celtics team as nothing more than a footnote in Kobe Bryant's story.  Kobe, having won 3 titles with Shaq was trying to prove he could do it "alone" (poor Pau)... he runs into a nasty and tough Boston team built around superstar Kevin Garnett.  In year one, the Celtics crush Kobe... humbling him.  But he comes back stronger the next year and claims glory.  All that was left was proving he could beat the mighty Celtics... he gets that chance in 2010... and repeats as a champion... sealing his fate as one of the greatest ever.  To be continued...

That really sucks.  It sucks accepting that.  It pains me to admit it.  And I have this inner need to want more.  I want my man, Pierce, to bring us back to glory.  I want to believe we can do it.   But the sad fact is, we can't.  KG doesn't have it anymore.  Pierce is still a great player at 34, but we aren't getting back to the dance again with him.  Even with cap space, there is no quick fix here.  Nothing can happen in the next two years to vault us back into the title hunt.  This is a 5 year rebuild at the least.  At this point, we kind of have to cherish that 08 title, accept that Pierce was a great player... and start building for the next era of the Celtics who can hopefully write a legacy that isn't simply a footnote in Kobe's dynasty.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2012, 10:13:47 PM »

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This is harsh, but true...

The hardest part about trading Pierce to me is this... I grew up watching him play.  He's been my favorite player.  The majority of his career we stunk, but I still loved watching him.  

Here's the bombshell... revisionist history will look at this Celtics team as nothing more than a footnote in Kobe Bryant's story.  Kobe, having won 3 titles with Shaq was trying to prove he could do it "alone" (poor Pau)... he runs into a nasty and tough Boston team built around superstar Kevin Garnett.  In year one, the Celtics crush Kobe... humbling him.  But he comes back stronger the next year and claims glory.  All that was left was proving he could beat the mighty Celtics... he gets that chance in 2010... and repeats as a champion... sealing his fate as one of the greatest ever.  To be continued...

That really sucks.  It sucks accepting that.  It pains me to admit it.  And I have this inner need to want more.  I want my man, Pierce, to bring us back to glory.  I want to believe we can do it.   But the sad fact is, we can't.  KG doesn't have it anymore.  Pierce is still a great player at 34, but we aren't getting back to the dance again with him.  Even with cap space, there is no quick fix here.  Nothing can happen in the next two years to vault us back into the title hunt.  This is a 5 year rebuild at the least.  At this point, we kind of have to cherish that 08 title, accept that Pierce was a great player... and start building for the next era of the Celtics who can hopefully write a legacy that isn't simply a footnote in Kobe's dynasty.

You can tell whatever story you want, but this team will never be anybody's footnote in my narrative.  For me, their legacy is firmly entrenched in Celtics and NBA history.
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2012, 10:30:22 PM »

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No but really I'll never forget 2008. Shame how disappointing the rest turned out

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« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2012, 10:48:06 PM »

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Pierce retires in Celtic Green end of story.

Re: Paul Pierce can not be traded, would be a shame to Boston, he is a legend.
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2012, 10:48:32 PM »

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Pierce retires in Celtic Green end of story.

True story. Just the way it should be.