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Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2012, 04:37:27 PM »

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Read in another article that Chicago would be more willing to trade JNoah than Asik! Apparently they're really high on him, and  Noah's production has gone down slightly over the last 2-3 years. 
Either one would be OK with me, as they are both young and good defensively and rebounding wise!

The problem with Noah is that he's got 5 years, $60 million left on his deal.  For a guy averaging 7 points and 8 rebounds and who has had attitude / work ethic problems in the past, that's pretty scary.

Work ethic problems from Noah? I've never read that.

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Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2012, 04:46:44 PM »

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Asik is too old.   Pass.   He'll be over 30 by the time we are competitive again.  I'd rather trade Ray for a draft pick or guy 22 and under.

Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2012, 05:12:48 PM »

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...or if it doesn't pan out (HIGHLY likely) this is the kind of deal that cripples a franchise for a half-decade, and keeps you stuck in mediocrity, the equivalent of NBA purgatory...
Trading a 37 year old shooting guard for a 25 year old reliable center is the kind of deal that can cripple a franchise for half a decade? Seems like no risk, at least decent reward to me. I mean if the Celtics start playing well than none of this matters.

The comment above mine was about Noah, not Asik.  Noah is overpaid, and a contract that is an albatross for too many years.  He's an inconsistent flake.

Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2012, 07:42:36 PM »

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Read in another article that Chicago would be more willing to trade JNoah than Asik! Apparently they're really high on him, and  Noah's production has gone down slightly over the last 2-3 years.  
Either one would be OK with me, as they are both young and good defensively and rebounding wise!

The problem with Noah is that he's got 5 years, $60 million left on his deal.  For a guy averaging 7 points and 8 rebounds and who has had attitude / work ethic problems in the past, that's pretty scary.

Work ethic problems from Noah? I've never read that.

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Boylan called Noah "a great kid," but noted he's been involved in "a couple of situations where he's been late or not doing what the Chicago Bulls do. So the cumulative aspect of this is definitely part of the reasoning for the players [voting to suspend him for multiple games]."

"This isn't college anymore," Boylan said. "It's the NBA. This is professional sports."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3194819

I don't want to research all night, but early in his career, Noah didn't put the work in.  After he just got paid his hugely overpaid contract, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more of that.  His numbers certainly are markedly down this year.


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Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2012, 07:44:18 PM »

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Noah has been playing hurt.  He's fine.  Can't get him.  Forget about it.

Re: Ray Allen for Omer Asik?
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2012, 07:46:02 PM »

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  You wouldn't do KG/Pietrus for Noah/Korver/filler if it was available?

No.  I'd spend my cap money on an impact player, rather than a role player.  Noah is way overpaid.  Spending $11m to $13m on Noah is just way too much. 


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