Top 25 NBA Players List

[jiriwelsch]

and where did those numbers come from? you get my point now?

[KCattheStripe]

and where did those numbers come from? you get my point now?

The NBA website?

[jiriwelsch]

thats what I've been trying to tell everybody!!!!!!

[KCattheStripe]

The NBA Website doctors stats to make some players look bad?

[tyrone biggums]

Agree to disagree.  i'm pretty sure your wrong.

I'm oretty sure I just showed you stats that proved I'm right.

Rondo isn't top 25? Well this thread lost all credibility...somehow I figured this would turn into another pile on Rondo thread. To echo another poster, in what universe is Ellis better than Rondo?

[jiriwelsch]

every team knows how to play against the celtics now.  they lay off rondo and let him plow into the middle and shoot free throws.  ellis, he gets you points and opens the floor up for everyone else. 

[KCattheStripe]

every team knows how to play against the celtics now.  they lay off rondo and let him plow into the middle and shoot free throws.  ellis, he gets you points and opens the floor up for everyone else. 

Which of course means there's no way to play Ellis, like letting him iso and shoot his team out of the ball game.

[jiriwelsch]

no no doc will get him into the system.  kg ray paul are the identity and anyone coming into their team will play celtic basketball.  kinda like patriots...

[tyrone biggums]

every team knows how to play against the celtics now.  they lay off rondo and let him plow into the middle and shoot free throws.  ellis, he gets you points and opens the floor up for everyone else. 

That's wonderful but the reality is Monta shoots about 45% from the field and is an average defender at best. You're cherry picking stats to attempt to advance your argument, that is what kills your evaluation. Rondo is one of the best defensive point guards in the league, Ellis doesn't deserve to even be in the same conversation as him. So if 3's and field goals are all that matters...where is Kyle Korver on this list? That guy is a beast from beyond the arc.

[KCattheStripe]

no no doc will get him into the system.  kg ray paul are the identity and anyone coming into their team will play celtic basketball.  kinda like patriots...

Yes,  just like the Pats were able to get Lawrence Maroney to buy into the system or Brandon Merriweather or Addailus Thomas.

[jiriwelsch]

in terms of advanced statistical analysis-  monta has much better efficiency in nearly all metrics.  its all on nba.com

[tyrone biggums]

no no doc will get him into the system.  kg ray paul are the identity and anyone coming into their team will play celtic basketball.  kinda like patriots...

Your posts are not making much sense, they have about as much substance as Jiri's career. Not trying to snipe but come on! Please think about your arguments before posting them, I understand the top 25 is opinion but just back it up with why you think these guys are the best...don't say Ellis is a better offensive player when readily available statistics on NBA.COM say otherwise.

[jiriwelsch]

and decade long dominance

no no doc will get him into the system.  kg ray paul are the identity and anyone coming into their team will play celtic basketball.  kinda like patriots...

Yes,  just like the Pats were able to get Lawrence Maroney to buy into the system or Brandon Merriweather or Addailus Thomas.

[BASS_THUMPER]

not an accurate list

where is b scalabrine?

[jiriwelsch]

you need to dig deeper into those statistics is what i'm telling you.  as soon as anyone does that they will realize Rondo is clearly not a Top 25 NBA Player

no no doc will get him into the system.  kg ray paul are the identity and anyone coming into their team will play celtic basketball.  kinda like patriots...

Your posts are not making much sense, they have about as much substance as Jiri's career. Not trying to snipe here at someone but come on! Please think about your arguments before posting them, I understand the top 25 is opinion but just back it up with why you think these guys are the best...don't say Ellis is a better offensive player when readily available statistics on NBA.COM say otherwise.