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Idea Ray to Clippers
« on: January 20, 2012, 10:11:49 AM »

Offline CFAN38

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First off I would hate to see ray go.

He is the hardest working of the big three and is a great role model in the community.

I also dont like the idea of making LA clips better as it hurts our draft pick.

With that being said here is my trade proposal

Ray to the clippers

Foye + Gnomes + Bledsoe to Celtics

Move Bledsoe to a team like Dallas, Phoenix, or Toronto for a 1st this year, any team in need of a young pg isnt likely to find one in this draft and would likey take this trade.


Clippers add a great shooter and a proven veteran. He is a perfect fit next to blake and paul.
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Re: Idea Ray to Clippers
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 10:35:34 AM »

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Gnomes? haha!

I like Gomes & Foye is good off the bench, but the trade leaves us with no starting SG (unless we run with Pierce & Pietrus as starters)
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 10:40:10 AM »

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the trade leaves us with no starting SG (unless we run with Pierce & Pietrus as starters)

This would be a rebuilding trade. We would move piertus to the starting spot and obviously take another step down as a team but gain another draft pick.

Gnomes would be a 1.5 year player who is a sloid veteran off the bench and foye is a FA.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 10:43:14 AM »

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lol dude, why do you keep calling him Gnomes?
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 12:01:06 PM »

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lol dude, why do you keep calling him Gnomes?

wow just caught that, well his picture on realgm kinda makes his hair look like a gnomes hat.  my bad
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 12:04:07 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 12:11:17 PM »

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Foye stinks and Gnomes (his official new nickname) is a career back up..who we already had and let walk.  Bledsoe may be good.  Maybe.  But isn't worth dealing Ray's expiring deal.  The future cap room is worth more.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 12:19:38 PM »

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Funny, I just put this trade together in the trade machine..you beat me to it.

I like it, and I think the Clips would do it. They are in win now mode. Ray brings a veteran presence and is a huge upgrade over Bledsoe (this season anyway).

Foye and Gomes are throw-ins with a short term commitment, so who cares about them.

Bledsoe is the wild card. Once he comes back from injury, he could try out as a backup PG/SG. If he works out, great. He's cheap for a couple more years and can help "bridge" to the next era.

If not, no harm no foul, he's a highly tradeable asset to have. No brainer deal for both sides.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 12:34:47 PM »

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Quote from: ChiefDK on January 20, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Funny, I just put this trade together in the trade machine..you beat me to it.

I like it, and I think the Clips would do it. They are in win now mode. Ray brings a veteran presence and is a huge upgrade over Bledsoe (this season anyway).

Foye and Gomes are throw-ins with a short term commitment, so who cares about them.

Bledsoe is the wild card. Once he comes back from injury, he could try out as a backup PG/SG. If he works out, great. He's cheap for a couple more years and can help "bridge" to the next era.

If not, no harm no foul, he's a highly tradeable asset to have. No brainer deal for both sides.



I don't see it.  What do we actually gain in the deal?  It's clear we lose somthing...trying to see the gain and not able.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 12:44:22 PM »

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Quote from: wiley on January 20, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Quote from: ChiefDK on January 20, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Funny, I just put this trade together in the trade machine..you beat me to it.

I like it, and I think the Clips would do it. They are in win now mode. Ray brings a veteran presence and is a huge upgrade over Bledsoe (this season anyway).

Foye and Gomes are throw-ins with a short term commitment, so who cares about them.

Bledsoe is the wild card. Once he comes back from injury, he could try out as a backup PG/SG. If he works out, great. He's cheap for a couple more years and can help "bridge" to the next era.

If not, no harm no foul, he's a highly tradeable asset to have. No brainer deal for both sides.



I don't see it.  What do we actually gain in the deal?  It's clear we lose somthing...trying to see the gain and not able.

I agree.  All we'd get is a clogged cap and a backup PG who stands no chance of ever starting for this team (unless Rondo is traded.)
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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 01:03:27 PM »

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I don't see it.  What do we actually gain in the deal?  It's clear we lose somthing...trying to see the gain and not able.

what we gain is a trad-able asset. Gomes has this season and next season and then he is off the books so its not like his contract will kill us. Bledsoe had a solid rookie season and has been hurt this year. I would think a team looking for a young pg (back up for nash?) would offer a 1st round pick for him.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 01:21:17 PM »

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Quote from: FrDrake on January 20, 2012, 12:44:22 PM
Quote from: wiley on January 20, 2012, 12:34:47 PM
Quote from: ChiefDK on January 20, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
Funny, I just put this trade together in the trade machine..you beat me to it.

I like it, and I think the Clips would do it. They are in win now mode. Ray brings a veteran presence and is a huge upgrade over Bledsoe (this season anyway).

Foye and Gomes are throw-ins with a short term commitment, so who cares about them.

Bledsoe is the wild card. Once he comes back from injury, he could try out as a backup PG/SG. If he works out, great. He's cheap for a couple more years and can help "bridge" to the next era.

If not, no harm no foul, he's a highly tradeable asset to have. No brainer deal for both sides.



I don't see it.  What do we actually gain in the deal?  It's clear we lose somthing...trying to see the gain and not able.

I agree.  All we'd get is a clogged cap and a backup PG who stands no chance of ever starting for this team (unless Rondo is traded.)

How do we get a clogged cap? Foye comes off the books this year, Gomes next year (at a reasonable cost), and Bledsoe is on a rookie contract for 2 more years after this one.

I don't understand your logic at all. Bledsoe is a young, cheap, tradeable asset. Ainge should be acquiring these types of players.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 01:34:05 PM »

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Not a good return for Ray, and LA's backcourt would be too crowded (CP3, Billups, Mo Williams and Ray: too many guys who deserve big minutes).

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 01:37:02 PM »

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I would think that the Clips would want to move Williams if they are getting Ray. Not enough minutes for Paul, Billups, Ray and Williams.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 01:42:02 PM »

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Quote from: snively on January 20, 2012, 01:34:05 PM
Not a good return for Ray, and LA's backcourt would be too crowded (CP3, Billups, Mo Williams and Ray: too many guys who deserve big minutes).



You're right. But it's crowded with Bledsoe as well. The Clips could trade Billups or Williams to make room.

I just think they could use someone like Ray as a veteran presence.
 
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