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The Talented Mr. Brooks
« on: January 20, 2012, 01:01:44 AM »

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He has scored at least 15 points in eight out of the 13 games he has appeared in this season. Brooks has been the Nets' most consistent scorer. He has been the playmaker who they have been missing since the departure of Vince Carter after the 2008-09 season.

I know we have discussed the Brooks-Jajuan comparisons a million times but I need to get away from all these crazy Paul Pierce trade talk!
And I still can't get over the fact that we could have had the next Jamal Crawford or even a Paul Pierce but instead got an undersized Marcus Camby.. You all can make arguments about playing time but Brooks is an NBA-caliber scorer who can improve defensively while Jajuan will always be someone who's too slow to be a SF, too thin to be a power forward, and too small to be a center.. But at least I'm happy for Mr. Brooks that his talents are not being wasted..

Re: The Talented Mr. Brooks
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 01:10:41 AM »

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He has scored at least 15 points in eight out of the 13 games he has appeared in this season. Brooks has been the Nets' most consistent scorer. He has been the playmaker who they have been missing since the departure of Vince Carter after the 2008-09 season.

I know we have discussed the Brooks-Jajuan comparisons a million times but I need to get away from all these crazy Paul Pierce trade talk!
And I still can't get over the fact that we could have had the next Jamal Crawford or even a Paul Pierce but instead got an undersized Marcus Camby.. You all can make arguments about playing time but Brooks is an NBA-caliber scorer who can improve defensively while Jajuan will always be someone who's too slow to be a SF, too thin to be a power forward, and too small to be a center.. But at least I'm happy for Mr. Brooks that his talents are not being wasted..
WE had Jeff Green.
In Doc and Danny's mind, this kid would have sat on the pine for a while as Green started and trotted with Rondo- and that's after Pierce was gone.
So they went after a KG replacement instead because he has less time left.
Fair enough he is doing well but you haven't seen enough of Johnson to know how good he is.
If Brooks was playing behind Pierce and Jeff Green this year would he get any minutes?
Very repetitive argument that seems like it's based on hindsight.
You have to get lucky in the draft and no one can see into the future. People are harping on this so much and it's so annoying.
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Re: The Talented Mr. Brooks
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 01:50:04 AM »

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1027440-new-jersey-nets-nets-may-have-the-next-star-player-in-marshon-brooks

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He has scored at least 15 points in eight out of the 13 games he has appeared in this season. Brooks has been the Nets' most consistent scorer. He has been the playmaker who they have been missing since the departure of Vince Carter after the 2008-09 season.

I know we have discussed the Brooks-Jajuan comparisons a million times but I need to get away from all these crazy Paul Pierce trade talk!
And I still can't get over the fact that we could have had the next Jamal Crawford or even a Paul Pierce but instead got an undersized Marcus Camby.. You all can make arguments about playing time but Brooks is an NBA-caliber scorer who can improve defensively while Jajuan will always be someone who's too slow to be a SF, too thin to be a power forward, and too small to be a center.. But at least I'm happy for Mr. Brooks that his talents are not being wasted..
WE had Jeff Green.
In Doc and Danny's mind, this kid would have sat on the pine for a while as Green started and trotted with Rondo- and that's after Pierce was gone.
So they went after a KG replacement instead because he has less time left.
Fair enough he is doing well but you haven't seen enough of Johnson to know how good he is.
If Brooks was playing behind Pierce and Jeff Green this year would he get any minutes?
Very repetitive argument that seems like it's based on hindsight.
You have to get lucky in the draft and no one can see into the future. People are harping on this so much and it's so annoying.



I think people are harping on this for a couple of reasons.

a) we knew going into this season that we would have depth issues in the frontcourt, and that the team desperately needed size.  thus, picking JaJaun seems, especially in hindsight, a lot like a "going for need over best player available" situation, which very often is an unwise draft strategy.

b) it's not as if this Brooks kid is sneaking up on everybody.  prior to the draft, anybody who was following things closely at all heard all about this kid from Providence who scored a bajillion points, including over 50 in one game, and how much his jumpshot made him look like a young Kobe, and so on.  there were a lot of people clamoring for us to take MarShon.  yes, there were plenty of questions about whether he could play at an NBA level, but it's not as though MarShon was a total sleeper.  To many, he was an obvious choice.
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Re: The Talented Mr. Brooks
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 02:11:12 AM »

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These Marshon Brooks threads need to stop.....bottom line is he wouldn't be the player he is for the Nets now if he was on the C's.....and at the time our need was a big man, not him!

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 02:57:09 AM »

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Why wouldn't he be? Besides the huge possibility of Doc refusing to play him, I don't see how he couldn't help us more than JJJ can THIS year. That was the plan heading into this season after all, to go all out for one last championship run. Bottom line is that Ainge made a mistake on passing this kid up, he can flat out score.

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 03:19:43 AM »

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Ever think Ainge picks Johnson because the Celtics will not be resigning KG next year? You don't draft players based on what your situation will be in their rookie season, i think you look ahead a little bit.

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 05:12:14 AM »

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Ever think Ainge picks Johnson because the Celtics will not be resigning KG next year? You don't draft players based on what your situation will be in their rookie season, i think you look ahead a little bit.

I agree with your premise, but don't you think having an all star caliber in the next 2-3 years is looking in to the future as well? With all the cap space we have next year, Danny could find a forward who could fill KG's spot (not saying as good, but could we possibly say JJJ is the next KG?). MarShon could be one of our core in the future, and could be helping us right now.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 06:43:39 AM »

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Agree with chambers
Ainge has been good at looking a few years into the future since getting gm job.  Scoring wing is supposed to be the easiest posistion to fill.  JJ has upside once he's settled in and puts on some more muscle.  Last game was the first time I've seen his running stride look good, injury earlier?

I had hopes JJJ would be helping us this year at pf but Bass has been great.  I can't see many minutes for him THIS year but do expect good improvement and will be interested to see his play next year.

Re: The Talented Mr. Brooks
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 07:22:29 AM »

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I was really hoping this was a thread about Mel's great acting career and not Marshon. 

The kids a rookie and he has the green light.  I'll reserve any praise or criticism until I see that he is more than another Derozen or Kevin Martin.  It takes a special player and alot of women to be a Kobe.

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 08:47:51 AM »

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WE had Jeff Green.
In Doc and Danny's mind, this kid would have sat on the pine for a while as Green started and trotted with Rondo- and that's after Pierce was gone.
Green and Brooks don't even play the same position.  Green is 6'9" and plays the 3 or 4.  Brooks is 6'5" and plays the 2.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 09:00:50 AM »

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He has scored at least 15 points in eight out of the 13 games he has appeared in this season. Brooks has been the Nets' most consistent scorer. He has been the playmaker who they have been missing since the departure of Vince Carter after the 2008-09 season.

I know we have discussed the Brooks-Jajuan comparisons a million times but I need to get away from all these crazy Paul Pierce trade talk!
And I still can't get over the fact that we could have had the next Jamal Crawford or even a Paul Pierce but instead got an undersized Marcus Camby.. You all can make arguments about playing time but Brooks is an NBA-caliber scorer who can improve defensively while Jajuan will always be someone who's too slow to be a SF, too thin to be a power forward, and too small to be a center.. But at least I'm happy for Mr. Brooks that his talents are not being wasted..

  Did you see Paul Pierce play when he was younger? I don't see that kind of player at all in Brooks.

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 09:06:35 AM »

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WE had Jeff Green.
In Doc and Danny's mind, this kid would have sat on the pine for a while as Green started and trotted with Rondo- and that's after Pierce was gone.
Green and Brooks don't even play the same position.  Green is 6'9" and plays the 3 or 4.  Brooks is 6'5" and plays the 2.
Like I said... Brooks is an NBA 2 / SG who could've filled our need as backup in said position, especially since we lacked scoring off the bench.. Jajuan is not an NBA 4, and he will struggle unless he fills up.. It's not like Danny had any chance of signing a Jamal Crawford or a Jason Richardson in last year's free agency.. Thanks for your opinions anyway..

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 09:15:57 AM »

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I was a bit surprised, that we let Brooks go. I guess there was a deal with the Nets before draft night, that Danny couldn't back out of.
That said, I think it is hindsight to say that we needed backup wing players. Around draft time, we thought we had Green and probably Delonte coming back (that was the plan) and Big Baby leaving for greener pastures. Furthermore we had only JO at the center (and no reasonto believe that he will stay healthy), so it made a lot of sense to get a capable big man in stead of a shooter with attitude.
I'm not saying it was the right choice, but neither am I saying it was the wrong choice. For me the jury will be out until at least some time next season.

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 09:22:14 AM »

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I was really hoping this was a thread about Mel's great acting career and not Marshon. 

The kids a rookie and he has the green light.  I'll reserve any praise or criticism until I see that he is more than another Derozen or Kevin Martin.  It takes a special player and alot of women to be a Kobe.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 09:28:58 AM »

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MarShon Brooks is a talented player, but I'm looking forward to Doc unleashing Jajuan in due time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvGZYUD3bIs&feature=fvwrel

I'm looking forward to seeing Rondo deliver those passes to Jajuan, from the 30-40 sec portion of the clip.

He (and E'twuan) will display their talents in due time...just wait.

We already see Doc's patient approach with Avery Bradley. It's paying off. That kid is coming into his own rather quickly, too.

Just give Doc time...once Jajuan and E'twuan are unleashed, the NBA will know. :)

MarShon is in a very good place right now.