Author Topic: Should we be trying to land Brook Lopez? (Read 7273 times)

Green 18 · « **on:** January 19, 2012, 12:24:08 PM »

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218410/Nets_Unlikely_To_Offer_Extension_To_Brook_Lopez

If the Nets won't offer an extension, we should be trying to land him (with a signed extension, of course)before he becomes a FA.

Maybe JO for Lopez/James or Wilcox for Lopez.

Eja117 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:32:44 PM »

why wouldn't they offer him an extension? The D Howard thing?

Chris · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:38:36 PM »

Quote from: eja117 on January 19, 2012, 12:32:44 PM

why wouldn't they offer him an extension? The D Howard thing?

Exactly. As soon as he signs the extension, he becomes a heck of a lot harder to trade, because of the poison pill (or something like that) contract.

Just because they are not extending him right now does not mean they won't keep him if they can't land Howard. They just don't want to close the door on Howard now, when they could just sign Lopez later on.

PosImpos · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:40:54 PM »

Meh. Not too excited by a center who plays big minutes and doesn't average double-digit rebounds despite being 7 feet tall.

Chris · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:45:51 PM »

I would like to point out that no one should be in favor of Al Jefferson, and not in favor of Lopez.

They are both among the best offensive big men in the game, but are flawed otherwise. Jefferson is a better rebounder, but horrendous defender, Lopez can defend a bit, but is not a good rebounder. They are essentially the same players, except Lopez is younger, bigger, and until this season, less injury prone.

Moranis · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:56:35 PM »

Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 12:40:54 PM

Meh. Not too excited by a center who plays big minutes and doesn't average double-digit rebounds despite being 7 feet tall.

I thought you were a big Perkins fan.

PosImpos · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:57:03 PM »

Quote from: Chris on January 19, 2012, 12:45:51 PM

I would like to point out that no one should be in favor of Al Jefferson, and not in favor of Lopez.

They are both among the best offensive big men in the game, but are flawed otherwise. Jefferson is a better rebounder, but horrendous defender, Lopez can defend a bit, but is not a good rebounder. They are essentially the same players, except Lopez is younger, bigger, and until this season, less injury prone.

The "terrible rebounder despite being 7 feet" thing bothers me a heck of a lot more than the fact that Big Al is a bad defender. I think if you pair Big Al with the right kind of athletic defensive 4 you wouldn't have such a bad interior defense.

Lopez's poor rebounding, on the other hand, speaks to a bigger issue with him as a player, since he should have the physical tools to rebound passably well, and yet doesn't.

Yoki_IsTheName · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:57:22 PM »

Give me JO for Robin instead.

PosImpos · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:58:23 PM »

Quote from: Moranis on January 19, 2012, 12:56:35 PM

Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
Meh. Not too excited by a center who plays big minutes and doesn't average double-digit rebounds despite being 7 feet tall.
I thought you were a big Perkins fan.

Perkins isn't seven feet tall, he never played what you could call "big minutes," and while I greatly respected what Perk brought to the table (particularly his intangibles and post defense), I never thought he was anything more than a defensive role player.

theswitch · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:18:25 PM »

I don't know if we'd be able to swing Lopez because I'm sure they are holding out on a Lopez for Howard base for a deal, but if that completely falls through and they don't have interest in keeping Lopez next year then absolutely we should go after him. Offensively talented 7-footers just don't grow on trees and guys like him don't come around very often.

I doubt the Nets would be willing to part, though, this seems like a Plan A: Howard and Plan B: Lopez situation, where they don't want to commit in January but have no intention of going without an All-Star caliber center for the next few years.

Fafnir · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:23:27 PM »

Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 12:57:03 PM

Quote from: Chris on January 19, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
I would like to point out that no one should be in favor of Al Jefferson, and not in favor of Lopez.

They are both among the best offensive big men in the game, but are flawed otherwise. Jefferson is a better rebounder, but horrendous defender, Lopez can defend a bit, but is not a good rebounder. They are essentially the same players, except Lopez is younger, bigger, and until this season, less injury prone.

The "terrible rebounder despite being 7 feet" thing bothers me a heck of a lot more than the fact that Big Al is a bad defender. I think if you pair Big Al with the right kind of athletic defensive 4 you wouldn't have such a bad interior defense.

Lopez's poor rebounding, on the other hand, speaks to a bigger issue with him as a player, since he should have the physical tools to rebound passably well, and yet doesn't.

I don't really get your logic here, you can pair Lopez with a stronger rebounding 4 the same way you can help Big Al with a more mobile defensive 4.

PosImpos · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:30:22 PM »

Quote from: Fafnir on January 19, 2012, 01:23:27 PM

Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 12:57:03 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 19, 2012, 12:45:51 PM
I would like to point out that no one should be in favor of Al Jefferson, and not in favor of Lopez.

They are both among the best offensive big men in the game, but are flawed otherwise. Jefferson is a better rebounder, but horrendous defender, Lopez can defend a bit, but is not a good rebounder. They are essentially the same players, except Lopez is younger, bigger, and until this season, less injury prone.

The "terrible rebounder despite being 7 feet" thing bothers me a heck of a lot more than the fact that Big Al is a bad defender. I think if you pair Big Al with the right kind of athletic defensive 4 you wouldn't have such a bad interior defense.

Lopez's poor rebounding, on the other hand, speaks to a bigger issue with him as a player, since he should have the physical tools to rebound passably well, and yet doesn't.
I don't really get your logic here, you can pair Lopez with a stronger rebounding 4 the same way you can help Big Al with a more mobile defensive 4.

I guess my point is that Big Al seems to do the most with the tools he has -- Lopez does not. That's not a good sign.

StartOrien · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:39:30 PM »

I'm very concerned about the mental makeup of Brook Lopez. He is absolutely not a player I'd want to start a rebuilding project around.

Put him on a good team as a third option and I think he could be great.

But start a rebuilding project around him? No thanks.

Fafnir · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:42:14 PM »

Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 01:30:22 PM

I guess my point is that Big Al seems to do the most with the tools he has -- Lopez does not. That's not a good sign.

I don't agree with that at all, Big Al could be a much better team defender and team rebounder with better effort.

For a guy with decent rebounding numbers, he is an awful team rebounder. (doesn't take care of his guy or lets others by him to get the board)

Fafnir · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:43:11 PM »

Quote from: StartOrien on January 19, 2012, 01:39:30 PM

I'm very concerned about the mental makeup of Brook Lopez. He is absolutely not a player I'd want to start a rebuilding project around.

Put him on a good team as a third option and I think he could be great.

But start a rebuilding project around him? No thanks.

I agree, not all that ethused about him, or Big Al.

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