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Off-Season Center Target: Mahinmi
« on: January 19, 2012, 02:11:38 AM »

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This guy has been putting up great per-minute numbers for his career, and I can see him stepping up in a starting role much like Marcin Gortat has since being traded to the Suns.

Since the Mavs are trying so hard to preserve their cap space for top free agents this summer, and the C's are going to have lots of cap space but not many players to use it on, I wouldn't mind seeing them give Mahinmi an offer in the range of $20-32 million / 4 years.  That might sound like a ton of money for a guy who up until this point has been a backup, but that's actually pretty cheap for a young, 6'11'' center with double-double potential and decent finishing ability and an okay mid-range jumper.
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Re: Off-Season Center Target: Mahinmi
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 02:16:28 AM »

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I like him, he has good hands and plays tough on both ends.
not so sure about 32 million/4 years but 20-25 he might be worth a gamble on the rebuild.
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Re: Off-Season Center Target: Mahinmi
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 03:00:51 AM »

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Should've gotten him last year when he was cheaper.. But Danny went with the old guys!
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 03:19:56 AM »

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He'd be a great pickup but as a starter? Not so sure.....also isn't he averaging 5 fouls in 20 mins of play? (heard it roughly along those lines yesterday)
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 03:24:23 AM »

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Nowhere near good enough for that type of money or minutes.

Mahinmi is a below average backup center.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:37 AM »

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Quote from: Who on January 19, 2012, 03:24:23 AM
Nowhere near good enough for that type of money or minutes.

Mahinmi is a below average backup center.


Here's the thing, though.  We're going to have to spend money on a center.  The minimum salary threshold means we're going to have to spend money, and the fact that we don't have a center currently on the roster under contract for next year means we'll probably have to spend a decent amount of money to get a starting center.

What would you prefer?  Spend 5 mil a year on another washed-up old guy like JO?  Or overspend on a soon-to-be old guy like Kaman who won't grow with the young guys on the roster?

I'm not sure why you think he's below average, either.  As I mentioned in the original post, the guy has put up very good per-minute numbers with high efficiency throughout his career.

If you look at the free agent pool for this summer, Mahinmi is probably the best we could hope to do, unless you want to pay a lot of money for Kaman or get a slow, injury-prone has-been like Okur.

Quote from: Bean_town fan on January 19, 2012, 03:19:56 AM
He'd be a great pickup but as a starter? Not so sure.....also isn't he averaging 5 fouls in 20 mins of play? (heard it roughly along those lines yesterday)

Part of the rebuilding process is going to be putting back-up players in starting roles and seeing whether or not they can grow into the higher expectations and demands.
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Re: Off-Season Center Target: Mahinmi
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 10:31:35 AM »

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Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Who on January 19, 2012, 03:24:23 AM
Nowhere near good enough for that type of money or minutes.

Mahinmi is a below average backup center.
I'm not sure why you think he's below average, either.  As I mentioned in the original post, the guy has put up very good per-minute numbers with high efficiency throughout his career.

Mahimini is a poor defensive player and a slightly below average to average rebounder. He is a very limited offensive player albeit an efficient one.

That is why I consider him a below average backup center.


Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 08:45:37 AM
Here's the thing, though.  We're going to have to spend money on a center.  The minimum salary threshold means we're going to have to spend money, and the fact that we don't have a center currently on the roster under contract for next year means we'll probably have to spend a decent amount of money to get a starting center.

What would you prefer?  Spend 5 mil a year on another washed-up old guy like JO?  Or overspend on a soon-to-be old guy like Kaman who won't grow with the young guys on the roster?
I wouldn't give anyone a multi-year contract who isn't part of the long term plans.

One year contracts only. Be it Chris Kaman or Ian Mahinmi.

If I were rebuilding on the run while trying to convince FAs to come in the near future, I would pursue the best available talents who are willing to sign one year deals. Along the lines of the Sam Dalembert signing by the Houston Rockets this season.

If undergoing a full blow rebuilding process, I would sign only enough talent to give the team a small bit of balance / depth to allow whatever young talent is there to grow in a proper environment. Similar to Toronto this summer with J.Magloire, Forbes, R.Butler, A.Carter who provided a defensive foundation and veteran leadership for young players to learn from. I would keep the majority of the cap room for trade flexibility in an effort to take back unwanted contracts for draft picks. Be it the large kind like a Baron Davis or smaller deals like a Sasha Vujacic.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 10:59:48 AM »

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Quote from: Who on January 19, 2012, 10:31:35 AM
Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: Who on January 19, 2012, 03:24:23 AM
Nowhere near good enough for that type of money or minutes.

Mahinmi is a below average backup center.
I'm not sure why you think he's below average, either.  As I mentioned in the original post, the guy has put up very good per-minute numbers with high efficiency throughout his career.

Mahimini is a poor defensive player and a slightly below average to average rebounder. He is a very limited offensive player albeit an efficient one.

That is why I consider him a below average backup center.


Quote from: PosImpos on January 19, 2012, 08:45:37 AM
Here's the thing, though.  We're going to have to spend money on a center.  The minimum salary threshold means we're going to have to spend money, and the fact that we don't have a center currently on the roster under contract for next year means we'll probably have to spend a decent amount of money to get a starting center.

What would you prefer?  Spend 5 mil a year on another washed-up old guy like JO?  Or overspend on a soon-to-be old guy like Kaman who won't grow with the young guys on the roster?
I wouldn't give anyone a multi-year contract who isn't part of the long term plans.

One year contracts only. Be it Chris Kaman or Ian Mahinmi.

If I were rebuilding on the run while trying to convince FAs to come in the near future, I would pursue the best available talents who are willing to sign one year deals. Along the lines of the Sam Dalembert signing by the Houston Rockets this season.

If undergoing a full blow rebuilding process, I would sign only enough talent to give the team a small bit of balance / depth to allow whatever young talent is there to grow in a proper environment. Similar to Toronto this summer with J.Magloire, Forbes, R.Butler, A.Carter who provided a defensive foundation and veteran leadership for young players to learn from. I would keep the majority of the cap room for trade flexibility in an effort to take back unwanted contracts for draft picks. Be it the large kind like a Baron Davis or smaller deals like a Sasha Vujacic.

What you describe is not a bad way to go about things, if there really are no useful options.  I would argue that it can be worth taking a gamble on unproven guys in the hopes that they can turn into valuable pieces, especially since we have to spend anyway.

There aren't going to be many decent players willing to come here on a 1 year deal when we're rebuilding.  Even Houston has been competitive for a playoff spot, which explains why Dalembert was interested.
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