Why Doc doesn't experiment with Lineup Changes?

[Change]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

[celtics2]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

You are asking Doc to do something creative, not in his resume.

[kozlodoev]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

He's inserted Rondo with the bench multiple time since the beginning of the season. It hasn't worked. Rondo is not that guy. Stiemsma has run out of steam, forgive the pun, after a couple of good games.

So I'm afraid there isn't much left to find out.

[clover]

What I found stranger was, why is Pietrus, after a week playing with the team, pushing so hard for Doc to play the veterans over the rookies?

Seems kind of quick to be telling his coach what to do.

[CelticsFanNC]

  because when we lost Jeff Green we lost the one guy who could legitimately be considered an NBA starter of the guys who comprise our bench.  The rest are right where they should be.

[chambers]

Rotations are pretty much set now.

Only additions will be Wilcox.

Bass
Pietrus
Wilcox
Dooling
Marquis

Doubt Marquis gets much game now Pietrus is here.

Not much to experiment with, just have to give these units time to gel with each other.
Rookies and Bradley won't get any time- perhaps against younger teams like Philly and Indiana or guarding Rose, but nothing serious.

[clover]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

You are asking Doc to do something creative, not in his resume.

Sadly too true!

[pearljammer10]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

I think experimenting with lineup changes would hurt us more than help us. We already have too many new faces and that is distrupting the chemistry enough. Let the starters get accustomed to playing together and let the bench guys fall into their roles. Changing their routines only 12 games into the season certainly wouldn't make sense when youre trying to find a certain chemistry with a group of players.

[chambers]

The Celtics shouldn't be 4-8 period. They have the talent, experience, and chemistry. I think its time for Doc to experiment a little. Find the right mix of players.

Trotting 5 bench players without true point-guard hurting the team. Insert Rondo with bench unit. Lessen his time with starters take him out early, and bring him back with the bench. How about speeding up the tempo even for short stretches? Run Rondo Run. Rondo + 4 best athletes on the team, and run.

Stiemsma the one active big who provides energy shouldn't be buried on the bench. Was his breakout game a fluke or a sign of things to come? We need answers. There isn't better way to find out if you don't experiment.

I think experimenting with lineup changes would hurt us more than help us. We already have too many new faces and that is distrupting the chemistry enough. Let the starters get accustomed to playing together and let the bench guys fall into their roles. Changing their routines only 12 games into the season certainly wouldn't make sense when youre trying to find a certain chemistry with a group of players.

exactly...TP

[wdleehi]

Didn't he try Bass with the starting lineup?


Didn't he try Pavolic as a starter?

Didn't he give Moore 20 minutes in the Pacer game?




Let's be honest, only one player on the Celtics have not gotten a chance to get on he floor this year, the raw 1st year player.

[Chris]

Didn't he try Bass with the starting lineup?


Didn't he try Pavolic as a starter?

Didn't he give Moore 20 minutes in the Pacer game?




Let's be honest, only one player on the Celtics have not gotten a chance to get on he floor this year, the raw 1st year player.

Yeah, I am a bit flabbergasted by the idea that Doc isn't trying different things.  He has gone VERY deep into the bench this year, and has tried all different kinds of lineups.

[MBunge]

Stiemsma has run out of steam, forgive the pun, after a couple of good games.

I seriously doubt Steamer would solve what's wrong with this team, but let's be honest about things.  Here are Stiemsma's minutes so far this season.

20
16
12
21 (starting and put up 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts and 2 blks)
12
7
3
1
9
1

Again, not to say that Steamer playing more would necessarily fix anything with Boston, but to suggest he's not playing because he's not playing well is BS.  The guy played one of the best games any Celtic big has this season and after one more game was essentially in scrub duty, even though our regular starting center doesn't play over 23 minutes a game and our only other backup 5 has been hurt most of the season.

And again, this isn't to say Stiemsma would the answer to any of Boston's problems, but the reason he's not playing is simply because Doc has decided not to play him and not due to some lack of performance.  There are plenty of young players who are not doing any better then Steamer playing more minutes for teams who are as good or better than the Celtics.

Mike

[kozlodoev]

Stiemsma has run out of steam, forgive the pun, after a couple of good games.

I seriously doubt Steamer would solve what's wrong with this team, but let's be honest about things.  Here are Stiemsma's minutes so far this season.

20
16
12
21 (starting and put up 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts and 2 blks)
12
7
3
1
9
1

Again, not to say that Steamer playing more would necessarily fix anything with Boston, but to suggest he's not playing because he's not playing well is BS.  The guy played one of the best games any Celtic big has this season and after one more game was essentially in scrub duty, even though our regular starting center doesn't play over 23 minutes a game and our only other backup 5 has been hurt most of the season.

And again, this isn't to say Stiemsma would the answer to any of Boston's problems, but the reason he's not playing is simply because Doc has decided not to play him and not due to some lack of performance.  There are plenty of young players who are not doing any better then Steamer playing more minutes for teams who are as good or better than the Celtics.

Um, ever considered that Doc has decided not to play him mostly because of lack of performance?

[Inside-Out]

Stiemsma has run out of steam, forgive the pun, after a couple of good games.

I seriously doubt Steamer would solve what's wrong with this team, but let's be honest about things.  Here are Stiemsma's minutes so far this season.

20
16
12
21 (starting and put up 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts and 2 blks)
12
7
3
1
9
1

Again, not to say that Steamer playing more would necessarily fix anything with Boston, but to suggest he's not playing because he's not playing well is BS.  The guy played one of the best games any Celtic big has this season and after one more game was essentially in scrub duty, even though our regular starting center doesn't play over 23 minutes a game and our only other backup 5 has been hurt most of the season.

And again, this isn't to say Stiemsma would the answer to any of Boston's problems, but the reason he's not playing is simply because Doc has decided not to play him and not due to some lack of performance.  There are plenty of young players who are not doing any better then Steamer playing more minutes for teams who are as good or better than the Celtics.

Um, ever considered that Doc has decided not to play him mostly because of lack of performance?

Doc only plays vets who don't perform (e.g. JO, Sheed, PP this season).

[Chris]

Stiemsma has run out of steam, forgive the pun, after a couple of good games.

I seriously doubt Steamer would solve what's wrong with this team, but let's be honest about things.  Here are Stiemsma's minutes so far this season.

20
16
12
21 (starting and put up 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts and 2 blks)
12
7
3
1
9
1

Again, not to say that Steamer playing more would necessarily fix anything with Boston, but to suggest he's not playing because he's not playing well is BS.  The guy played one of the best games any Celtic big has this season and after one more game was essentially in scrub duty, even though our regular starting center doesn't play over 23 minutes a game and our only other backup 5 has been hurt most of the season.

And again, this isn't to say Stiemsma would the answer to any of Boston's problems, but the reason he's not playing is simply because Doc has decided not to play him and not due to some lack of performance.  There are plenty of young players who are not doing any better then Steamer playing more minutes for teams who are as good or better than the Celtics.

Um, ever considered that Doc has decided not to play him mostly because of lack of performance?

Yeah, after that one good game (and it wasn't that great...the blocks were fun, but overall, it was more surprising than great) he has been very average at best.  Now that defenses realize he is not a big stiff, they have adjusted to him, and he is not changing the game when he gets in there.  He has still been solid enough, but his lack of offense, lack of blocking out, and over-aggressiveness on defense has been exploited at times.