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Re: Tony Wroten Jr.
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 07:21:43 PM »

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I saw Washington play once this year and have to say I wasn't overly impressed with Wroten as an NBA prospect. He's an athlete but every league in college has 2-3 Tony Wroten's in them. Heck, I'm not sure he was even the best Huskie I saw that night against Marquette. I thought Terrence Ross played a lot better and was more of a player that seemed like he could play at the next level.

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 07:42:06 PM »

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Wroten is an amazing talent.  He actually reminds me an awful lot of Gary Payton. He has elite court vision, ball handling ability, and can get to the basket at will.   His biggest issue right now is that he takes too many chances passing the ball and tries for too many spectacular plays...he is averaging 5 TO a game.

I'm sure Ainge loves him, but if Wroten comes out this year, he will likely be a top 10 pick and the first PG off the board, so to get him we are going to have to start losing games at an alarming rate.

Unless we trade rondo, I don't see Ainge drafting him even if he acquires a top 10 pick.  The real treasure of this draft is the PF/Center position.  Anthony Davis, Drummond, Thomas Robinson, Meyers Leonard, and Stephen Adams being players with All Star potential....and another handful (Jared Sullinger, John Henson, PJIII, Terence Jones, and Zeller brothers) projecting as solid starters.

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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2012, 07:49:34 PM »

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Wroten is an amazing talent.  He actually reminds me an awful lot of Gary Payton. He has elite court vision, ball handling ability, and can get to the basket at will.   His biggest issue right now is that he takes too many chances passing the ball and tries for too many spectacular plays...he is averaging 5 TO a game.

I'm sure Ainge loves him, but if Wroten comes out this year, he will likely be a top 10 pick and the first PG off the board, so to get him we are going to have to start losing games at an alarming rate.

Unless we trade rondo, I don't see Ainge drafting him even if he acquires a top 10 pick.  The real treasure of this draft is the PF/Center position.  Anthony Davis, Drummond, Thomas Robinson, Meyers Leonard, and Stephen Adams being players with All Star potential....and another handful (Jared Sullinger, John Henson, PJIII, Terence Jones, and Zeller brothers) projecting as solid starters.

I disagree. Most boards have him as the 3rd or 4th best point guard in the draft, and about half consider him a 2 guard because while he is a great passer, he is not great at setting up plays and what not.
As fot the big men, unless we can get in the top 8 and get a guy like Sullinger, I would rather take a sg or sf since after those first few big men, the skill goes down a lot. Say we get into like the 10-15 range. Im looking at Quincy Miller, Tony Wroten, and Austin Rivers. I really like Michael Gilchrist as well if we can get into late lottery.

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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2012, 08:27:22 PM »

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Wroten is an amazing talent.  He actually reminds me an awful lot of Gary Payton. He has elite court vision, ball handling ability, and can get to the basket at will.   His biggest issue right now is that he takes too many chances passing the ball and tries for too many spectacular plays...he is averaging 5 TO a game.

I'm sure Ainge loves him, but if Wroten comes out this year, he will likely be a top 10 pick and the first PG off the board, so to get him we are going to have to start losing games at an alarming rate.

Unless we trade rondo, I don't see Ainge drafting him even if he acquires a top 10 pick.  The real treasure of this draft is the PF/Center position.  Anthony Davis, Drummond, Thomas Robinson, Meyers Leonard, and Stephen Adams being players with All Star potential....and another handful (Jared Sullinger, John Henson, PJIII, Terence Jones, and Zeller brothers) projecting as solid starters.

I disagree. Most boards have him as the 3rd or 4th best point guard in the draft, and about half consider him a 2 guard because while he is a great passer, he is not great at setting up plays and what not.
As fot the big men, unless we can get in the top 8 and get a guy like Sullinger, I would rather take a sg or sf since after those first few big men, the skill goes down a lot. Say we get into like the 10-15 range. Im looking at Quincy Miller, Tony Wroten, and Austin Rivers. I really like Michael Gilchrist as well if we can get into late lottery.

Most boards have him as 3rd or 4th, but most GM's have him as 1st.  He currently is a scoring point, but make no mistake, he has all the skills needed to play point in the NBA and be the primary playmaker...and I'm pretty confident that will end up being his position.'

I think the bigs in this draft are fairly skilled but more importantly, enormously talented....they just aren't polished because they are all so young (freshman and sophmores).  But if your looking to get someone who can contribute significantly next season, then no big in this draft, except maybe Anthony Davis will be able to do that.  However, in the high lottery smart GM's usually look for long term potential as opposed to immediate help.

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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2012, 09:06:22 PM »

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Wroten is an amazing talent.  He actually reminds me an awful lot of Gary Payton. He has elite court vision, ball handling ability, and can get to the basket at will.   His biggest issue right now is that he takes too many chances passing the ball and tries for too many spectacular plays...he is averaging 5 TO a game.

I'm sure Ainge loves him, but if Wroten comes out this year, he will likely be a top 10 pick and the first PG off the board, so to get him we are going to have to start losing games at an alarming rate.

Unless we trade rondo, I don't see Ainge drafting him even if he acquires a top 10 pick.  The real treasure of this draft is the PF/Center position.  Anthony Davis, Drummond, Thomas Robinson, Meyers Leonard, and Stephen Adams being players with All Star potential....and another handful (Jared Sullinger, John Henson, PJIII, Terence Jones, and Zeller brothers) projecting as solid starters.

I disagree. Most boards have him as the 3rd or 4th best point guard in the draft, and about half consider him a 2 guard because while he is a great passer, he is not great at setting up plays and what not.
As fot the big men, unless we can get in the top 8 and get a guy like Sullinger, I would rather take a sg or sf since after those first few big men, the skill goes down a lot. Say we get into like the 10-15 range. Im looking at Quincy Miller, Tony Wroten, and Austin Rivers. I really like Michael Gilchrist as well if we can get into late lottery.

Most boards have him as 3rd or 4th, but most GM's have him as 1st.  He currently is a scoring point, but make no mistake, he has all the skills needed to play point in the NBA and be the primary playmaker...and I'm pretty confident that will end up being his position.'

I think the bigs in this draft are fairly skilled but more importantly, enormously talented....they just aren't polished because they are all so young (freshman and sophmores).  But if your looking to get someone who can contribute significantly next season, then no big in this draft, except maybe Anthony Davis will be able to do that.  However, in the high lottery smart GM's usually look for long term potential as opposed to immediate help.
Do you think Meyers Leonard Or say Patric Young could be real good players in the NBA?

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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2012, 10:03:21 PM »

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We should move up to get Jeremy Lamb!

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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2012, 10:11:10 PM »

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I think Leonard has a chance to be a fantastic player and is actually who I'm hoping Ainge can get his hands on...he has all the raw tools to be a dominant NBA center.  I think Patrick Young will be more of a rotation/role player.

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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2012, 10:11:26 PM »

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We should move up to get Jeremy Lamb!
That would definetly be a great pick. Best part besides his offensive game is that hes a real good defender.

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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2012, 10:12:34 PM »

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I think Leonard has a chance to be a fantastic player and is actually who I'm hoping Ainge can get his hands on...he has all the raw tools to be a dominant NBA center.  I think Patrick Young will be more of a rotation/role player.
I agree for the most part. I just hope leonard has the toughness to play nba center. Patric certainly has that.

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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2012, 11:09:11 PM »

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I think Leonard has a chance to be a fantastic player and is actually who I'm hoping Ainge can get his hands on...he has all the raw tools to be a dominant NBA center.  I think Patrick Young will be more of a rotation/role player.
I agree for the most part. I just hope leonard has the toughness to play nba center. Patric certainly has that.

Yeah, toughness is definitely the concern watching him right now.  I think he is a competitor and have seen him play with an edge on occasion.  I think he's still growing into his body and that causes him to shy away from contact...once he adds 20 lbs of muscle and lower body strength in the NBA I think you will see a much more physical player. Also, he desperately needs NBA level coaching...he is being horribly misused in Weber's system.

I'll be honest, I haven't seen Young nearly as much but it seems like he should be so much more productive at this point given how physically advanced he is.  Why is he only averaging 7 reb and 1 block in 27 minutes?

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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2012, 07:21:20 AM »

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We should move up to get Jeremy Lamb!

Ok, but why? Some info on this guy please...at least his position.  :)
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2012, 01:57:22 PM »

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Question: Patric Young = JJ Hickson?

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2012, 02:10:29 PM »

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We should move up to get Jeremy Lamb!

Ok, but why? Some info on this guy please...at least his position.  :)

Hes a 6'5" sg with a 7'0" wingspan. Major jumpshot with good quickness, pretty good moves already, and major athleticism. He gets comparisons to Rip Hamilton cause hes very thin but I think he can be a good deal better than rip hamilton. With his long arms, hes already a lock down defender. He moves without the ball very well.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jeremy-lamb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7RXNc75Rw



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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2012, 02:12:07 PM »

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Question: Patric Young = JJ Hickson?
Maybe, Patric is way more jacked though. He can bang down in the post with how strong he is.

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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2012, 06:09:11 PM »

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2 things.

1. I'm not sold on Jeremy Lamb. He's weak and worse he has questionable handles. His lateral quickness is a problem on defense so I have trouble seeing him as a lock down defender in the NBA. I'd much rather have Brad Beal who is a better overall shooter (although there is some debate to that), a tough defender that could do well in a team defense and has a higher BBIQ.

2. Patric Young is no JJ Hickson. Hickson is a talented and overly aggressive offensive player. Young gets his points off of put backs and dump offs. However, Young has the potential to be a much better defensive player than Hickson.
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