it's like you can still see the toughness but you have to wait till late in the 4th to get it then by that time it's to late the game is lose the rebounding is horrible scoring is pretty lame by the starters like what is going wrong defense and offense is not what it should be the bench is great it's just the starters messing up KG can grab an offensive rebound or pick up a loose ball when he should have went inside and pump fake and got fouled the man did a fall away that had no chance of going in like Edited. Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. pierce is not confident at all either did last years playoffs miss the c's up that bad?