Rubio > Rondo, right?

[wiley]

I am keeping Rondo at this point.


I will be interested to see if Rubio's effectiveness will stay as high as teams finally have some scouting tape on him and start to adjust. 

Exactly.  And let's not forget the fatigue of multiple NBA seasons playing through all or much of the playoffs....

[StartOrien]

I'm absolutely amazed by Ricky Rubio.

He is absolutely brilliant with the ball in his hands. Not just the court vision, but understanding of passing angles, and where has to be on the court in order to execute them. And I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine.

This sounds blasphemous, but I think he's pretty comparable to Jason Kidd early on but with a much better shot.

I think if the Celtics had a legitimate shot to be competitors this year, I'd might have some reservations but seeing as realistic expectations for them are probably semi-conference, I think if the deal was on the table you'd absolutely have to take the deal, and it wouldn't take a lot of thinking.

[snively]

Rubio certainly has a lot of excellent big man targets. Love & Williams especially and even Randolph and Tolliver are all highly capable finishers and/or shooters. 

An excellent situation for him to start his career.  If they can get anything out of Wes Johnson and Beasley (both off to terrible starts) and Webster gets healthy, they'll be electric offensively and Rubio will put up even gaudier numbers. 

Not really comparable to Rondo's rookie season.  He played on a team based on the post-play of Big Al and Pierce's work in the half-court. Not a point-guard centric team.

[Celtics18]

I'm absolutely amazed by Ricky Rubio.

He is absolutely brilliant with the ball in his hands. Not just the court vision, but understanding of passing angles, and where has to be on the court in order to execute them. And I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine.

This sounds blasphemous, but I think he's pretty comparable to Jason Kidd early on but with a much better shot.

I think if the Celtics had a legitimate shot to be competitors this year, I'd might have some reservations but seeing as realistic expectations for them are probably semi-conference, I think if the deal was on the table you'd absolutely have to take the deal, and it wouldn't take a lot of thinking.

 

I'm not sure where this notion that Ricky Rubio is a good shooter comes from.  He's never been known as a particularly good shooter. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'm absolutely amazed by Ricky Rubio.

He is absolutely brilliant with the ball in his hands. Not just the court vision, but understanding of passing angles, and where has to be on the court in order to execute them. And I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine.

This sounds blasphemous, but I think he's pretty comparable to Jason Kidd early on but with a much better shot.

I think if the Celtics had a legitimate shot to be competitors this year, I'd might have some reservations but seeing as realistic expectations for them are probably semi-conference, I think if the deal was on the table you'd absolutely have to take the deal, and it wouldn't take a lot of thinking.

 

I'm not sure where this notion that Ricky Rubio is a good shooter comes from.  He's never been known as a particularly good shooter. 

That's why he qualified the comment with "I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine".

I don't know how much of his recent shooting success will be sustainable, but so far he's shooting 46% and 47% from behind the arc, awesome numbers. But we'll see how it goes from here.

[Celtics18]

I'm absolutely amazed by Ricky Rubio.

He is absolutely brilliant with the ball in his hands. Not just the court vision, but understanding of passing angles, and where has to be on the court in order to execute them. And I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine.

This sounds blasphemous, but I think he's pretty comparable to Jason Kidd early on but with a much better shot.

I think if the Celtics had a legitimate shot to be competitors this year, I'd might have some reservations but seeing as realistic expectations for them are probably semi-conference, I think if the deal was on the table you'd absolutely have to take the deal, and it wouldn't take a lot of thinking.

 

I'm not sure where this notion that Ricky Rubio is a good shooter comes from.  He's never been known as a particularly good shooter. 

That's why he qualified the comment with "I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine".

I don't know how much of his recent shooting success will be sustainable, but so far he's shooting 46% and 47% from behind the arc, awesome numbers. But we'll see how it goes from here.

I wouldn't describe 46% from the field as "awesome."  I'd be inclined to go with something more like "solidly average."

[StartOrien]

I wouldn't describe 46% from the field as "awesome."  I'd be inclined to go with something more like "solidly average."

Steve Nash - statistically the greatest shooter of all time - shot a .512 from the field in his best season.  

EDIT: Eh, missed the .532 season. Still that's a pretty good number for Rubio.

[PosImpos]

I'm absolutely amazed by Ricky Rubio.

He is absolutely brilliant with the ball in his hands. Not just the court vision, but understanding of passing angles, and where has to be on the court in order to execute them. And I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine.

This sounds blasphemous, but I think he's pretty comparable to Jason Kidd early on but with a much better shot.

I think if the Celtics had a legitimate shot to be competitors this year, I'd might have some reservations but seeing as realistic expectations for them are probably semi-conference, I think if the deal was on the table you'd absolutely have to take the deal, and it wouldn't take a lot of thinking.

 

I'm not sure where this notion that Ricky Rubio is a good shooter comes from.  He's never been known as a particularly good shooter. 

That's why he qualified the comment with "I don't know what he did in the offseason but his shot seems just fine".

I don't know how much of his recent shooting success will be sustainable, but so far he's shooting 46% and 47% from behind the arc, awesome numbers. But we'll see how it goes from here.

I wouldn't describe 46% from the field as "awesome."  I'd be inclined to go with something more like "solidly average."

I think "awesome" was meant to apply to the 3 point percentage numbers.

[StartOrien]

I don't know how much of his recent shooting success will be sustainable, but so far he's shooting 46% and 47% from behind the arc, awesome numbers. But we'll see how it goes from here.

Ya, I don't think he can keep up these kind of numbers - but I'm encouraged by his form, confidence an willingness to shoot.

[kozlodoev]

I wouldn't describe 46% from the field as "awesome."  I'd be inclined to go with something more like "solidly average."

True, but given his eye popping .370 from the field and .310 or so from three during his Euro career, it's still a considerable jump.

[Celtics18]

Anyone think Rondo's awesome 43% from behind the arc will continue throughout the season?

[kozlodoev]

Anyone think Rondo's awesome 43% from behind the arc will continue throughout the season?

Rondo has taken 7 three pointers total. Rubio's sample is considerably bigger.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I meant awesome because they're really awesome in my opinion, particularly when you consider how little layups he seems to be taking. So what we're seeing is a lot of jump-shooting, unless the games I've missed he's done something different. And then considering he's a rookie has to play into the opinion. And of course, the 47% from 3-pointer is completely awesome, top 3 among PGs at the moment.

Anyway you spin it, those are very good shooting numbers for a PG.

[Eja117]

The stats of these guys the last 2 weeks are remarkably similar.

I think it's hard to say that Rondo is an elite guy when you have rookies outplaying him

[PosImpos]

The stats of these guys the last 2 weeks are remarkably similar.

I think it's hard to say that Rondo is an elite guy when you have rookies outplaying him

but Rondo's holding back on his scoring numbers because he's surrounded by hall of famers!

nevermind the fact that Rubio has a 25 ppg scorer to feed in the post / on the perimeter and Rondo has 3 old guys who can hardly string two good games in a row together any longer.


another thing about Rubio -- at a time in the game when Rondo tends to disappear and defer, Rubio steps up.

talkhoops Zach Harper
Ricky Rubio leads the NBA in 4th quarter assists this season at 30? That's not bad.