What saw....Celts vs Indiana

[BballTim]

I would like to see Doc start Bradley for Rondo once, Johnson for KG and Moore for PP.   I doubt it would work at the NBA level though to motivate these guys.  That works in grade school, high school and college but pros would probably just laugh at it.

  We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Doc did get out coached. He couldn't string together a lineup that could match Indiana's rebounding, second chance points, and eventual shooting touch, that come from all the rebounding...( you get to keep shooting till it works!) along with Celts aged guys who are a step slower, and a reflex lesser in their jump than younger teams.

   Our rebounding; Doc's stance was, last year and previous- Don't waste energy on offensive rebounding, get back on D....Well, that is here again. I watched Steisma ( steamer ) movng well without the ball, and, after every shot while he was out there ( limited) roll to the hole looking for that rebound. Bass stopped doing that..if he ever did last night, and NO one else...with the exception of RONDO tried t at all. So it is a one shot possesion. You cannot live by jumpshooting alone.

  Steisma.....he has a hand on almost every ball, offense or defense rebounds...his "tips" will not show up on a stat, but t can be just as good as a rebound, because our guys can be the ones who get it from that. His desire to block shots is good, and effective. On the offense, he knows when to take his shot, when to pass, and when to use his body as an offense     ( pick ) that is as good as a pick.it blocks the defender, giving rondo lane, that really wasn't there without it. The problem with this, is that doc pulled him way too early.

A lineup with Oneil or steamer, kg and bass would have been worth a try, with Ray and rondo, especally when we were within 7 in the last 5 minutes....can't say he was  SAVING our guys for later....their rebounding was killing us..our shooting was very poor, and even passing was weak....odd night overall...and the refs...ugh, ugh.....impossible to fathom..they are barely high school quality..and are killing the league..it looks worse than "pro" boxing....fixed or not qualified.

this is completely off topic, but a question i have wanted to ask, why do u always use "....." in every post? i feel like 99% of all ur post have it.  not starting anything with u, just an odd inquiry i have 

Do.."I" really do that a lot...it can't remember the last time i did it.....what does it mean..? Well, in this case "tips" wereso done to seperate because otherwise, in reading it..tips might have sounded like advice..when i wanted them to be known as he tipped the ball, aka, always gets a hand in on there,,,tuned into the play and actively looking to be there.....i don't mind the quote..about my using the quotations....just something i do....How about the guy who reads the story, and instead of considering the content, he analysis the grammer and punctuation....i sense a wanna be 4th grade teacher..."well, yes teacher..but, but..okay, I'll go stand in the corner..!". Hey look, he did it again..!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Just fooling with ya there DL..I think it fits my posts.but maybe not..?

[Celtics4ever]

  We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

I do not think it would help us and suggested it only to gain perspective for our starters.

[celtics2]

I would like to see Doc start Bradley for Rondo once, Johnson for KG and Moore for PP.   I doubt it would work at the NBA level though to motivate these guys.  That works in grade school, high school and college but pros would probably just laugh at it.

  We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

Rondo's warts show up when the Big 3 deflating to Big 2 now, have off games. He can't be coached because he'll pout. The trade last season staggered him for most of the season. He took it personally. Maybe he needs a Big Brother. If on a mediocre team like ours falters he can't pick it up like a Pierce or KG or Allen. He can't hit the jumper or free throws consistently enough. The better teams can shut him down inside like last years playoffs. He needs a team that can/will run. That's not us.

[manl_lui]

bottom line in this game is, it is a very off game for us, and we got out rebounded that is all

only one that was playing regularly is Ray Allen and Rondo...

rest of the team was really off. You can tell Pierce was really off that night...

beside fixing our rebounding problem, nothing else I am too worried about.

[BballTim]

I would like to see Doc start Bradley for Rondo once, Johnson for KG and Moore for PP.   I doubt it would work at the NBA level though to motivate these guys.  That works in grade school, high school and college but pros would probably just laugh at it.

  We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

Rondo's warts show up when the Big 3 deflating to Big 2 now, have off games. He can't be coached because he'll pout. The trade last season staggered him for most of the season. He took it personally. Maybe he needs a Big Brother. If on a mediocre team like ours falters he can't pick it up like a Pierce or KG or Allen. He can't hit the jumper or free throws consistently enough. The better teams can shut him down inside like last years playoffs. He needs a team that can/will run. That's not us.

  I agree, he can't hit jumpers or free throws consistently. Other than that, not so much.

[Celtics18]

I would like to see Doc start Bradley for Rondo once, Johnson for KG and Moore for PP.   I doubt it would work at the NBA level though to motivate these guys.  That works in grade school, high school and college but pros would probably just laugh at it.

  We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

Rondo's warts show up when the Big 3 deflating to Big 2 now, have off games. He can't be coached because he'll pout. The trade last season staggered him for most of the season. He took it personally. Maybe he needs a Big Brother. If on a mediocre team like ours falters he can't pick it up like a Pierce or KG or Allen. He can't hit the jumper or free throws consistently enough. The better teams can shut him down inside like last years playoffs. He needs a team that can/will run. That's not us.

Rondo doesn't get shut down in the playoffs.  On the contrary, his M.O. throughout his career has been to step it up in the playoffs.

[kozlodoev]

 We generally get killed when Rondo's on the bench, and you want to bench him for a game?

I do not think it would help us and suggested it only to gain perspective for our starters.

Right, but showing up people generally isn't a viable coaching strategy past middle school.

[cman88]

honestly, what I saw was a celtics team that had a horrid shooting night and didnt rebound the ball. Defensively we played well, the pacers werent a force offensively...but the difference was the rebounding. you cant have a good 24second defensive stand only to give up an easy 2 off the rebound.

im not really ready to get down on this celtics squad..YET...I look around hte league and see the Lakers at 4-4, the knicks at 3-4, the Mavs at 2-5 and I think alot of these older teams(or teams with alot of new faces ala the knicks) need time to get their game legs.

Alot of these older players I think take the offseason for granted in getting into a game shape and now with that shortened offseason we are seeing them have to play their way back into it. Paul Pierce has admitted hes not there yet

[Celtics4ever]

Right, but showing up people generally isn't a viable coaching strategy past middle school.

I said that in my original post, bucko.  Do you read them or just skim them?