Gerald Henderson

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He's come on strong under Silas, so I doubt Jordan will trade him, but I think he'd be a terrific fit on this team and for the Cs long-term. Would Charlotte take:

1) The Daniels trade exception, plus both our 1sts this summer & cash;

or:

2) Bradley or Johnson + Pavlovic or Moore (to make salaries work) + cash for him?

I might even add a pick to Option 2. The picks in Option 1 are likely to be low, but the Bobcats are a cheap / value driven franchise. I'm sure i'll get shot down for this. Anyone else have ideas of how to land him?

[Snakehead]

I do like him quite a bit, but I wouldn't trade both our firsts in a deep draft coming up.  We might be able to get some quality contributers if all the players that are expected to come out come out.

I don't think the Bobcats are looking regardless.  They need him at the position.

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The way I look at it, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'd rather have Henderson than any combo of Bradley, Giddens, Johnson, and so on.

[Snakehead]

The way I look at it, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'd rather have Henderson than any combo of Bradley, Giddens, Johnson, and so on.

That's fair, but as I said I just don't think Charlotte would trade him anyways.  He is one of their cornerstone guys at this point.

[jgod213]

His numbers are inflated playing on a very poor Bobcats team.  He's gone a long way in establishing himself in this league, but there's no way that, on a championship-caliber squad, he'd see anything close to the 14+ shots per game that he's getting in CHA.

He's also a career 23% 3-pt shooter.  Your talking about giving up a king's ransom for a guy who would essentially be a role player on a good team.

[Who]

Michael Jordan has publicly said that he thinks Gerald Henderson can become an All-Star caliber player in 2-3 years time.

The Bobcats aren't trading G.Henderson without getting a similar young prospect or a top 10 pick in return.

[minijericho29]

The way I look at it, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I'd rather have Henderson than any combo of Bradley, Giddens, Johnson, and so on.

Giddens?  Should we throw in the keys to the Dolorean as well?

[Who]

I don't think Gerald Henderson would add much value to the Celtics (in the short term, this season).

He is a one position player and with Ray Allen gobbling up 34+ minutes at that position already there simply isn't enough minutes for Henderson to make a large impact out there.

[kozlodoev]

He's come on strong under Silas, so I doubt Jordan will trade him, but I think he'd be a terrific fit on this team and for the Cs long-term. Would Charlotte take:

1) The Daniels trade exception, plus both our 1sts this summer & cash;

or:

2) Bradley or Johnson + Pavlovic or Moore (to make salaries work) + cash for him?

I might even add a pick to Option 2. The picks in Option 1 are likely to be low, but the Bobcats are a cheap / value driven franchise. I'm sure i'll get shot down for this. Anyone else have ideas of how to land him?

Why would they trade your starting SG and main scorer for a pile of spare parts and unremarkable picks?

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I don't think Gerald Henderson would add much value to the Celtics (in the short term, this season).

He is a one position player and with Ray Allen gobbling up 34+ minutes at that position already there simply isn't enough minutes for Henderson to make a large impact out there.

Having a young, versatile, healthy back-up 2 who is an excellent defender would go a long way towards ensuring Ray continues to play at the level he is in the first two weeks of the season. It also reduces the exposure of other players on the team, particularly injury prone ones like Daniels and Pietrus, again increasing our chances to have much needed fresh legs later in the year.

I love what I've seen out of GH's defense against top 2s. He'd be a solid upgrade to our bench at SG -- don't see much question there.

Always find in interesting when some feel we'd be giving up too much, some feel it wouldn't be enough..... a 'king's ransom' vs. 'a pile of spare parts and unremarkable picks'.....

[toine83]

Charlotte will have a top 10 pick next year:
Jeremy Lamb or Harrison Barnes could be available for them.

MJ drafted Walker and Biyombo, got Mullens via trade,signed Williams.
Maybe it is possible we can get Henderson a great backup for Ray

[jgod213]

I don't think Gerald Henderson would add much value to the Celtics (in the short term, this season).

He is a one position player and with Ray Allen gobbling up 34+ minutes at that position already there simply isn't enough minutes for Henderson to make a large impact out there.

Having a young, versatile, healthy back-up 2 who is an excellent defender would go a long way towards ensuring Ray continues to play at the level he is in the first two weeks of the season. It also reduces the exposure of other players on the team, particularly injury prone ones like Daniels and Pietrus, again increasing our chances to have much needed fresh legs later in the year.

I love what I've seen out of GH's defense against top 2s. He'd be a solid upgrade to our bench at SG -- don't see much question there.

Always find in interesting when some feel we'd be giving up too much, some feel it wouldn't be enough..... a 'king's ransom' vs. 'a pile of spare parts and unremarkable picks'.....

Yeah i kinda lumped both of your proposals together when i responded.  My fault.  I think the Bobcats would be enticed by two late 1st round picks, but again i'm just concered that his production is more a result of charlotte's lack of scoring outlets as opposed to him being legit #1 or #2 option.

He has a fair salary for the next year and a half though.

[Who]

I don't think Gerald Henderson would add much value to the Celtics (in the short term, this season).

He is a one position player and with Ray Allen gobbling up 34+ minutes at that position already there simply isn't enough minutes for Henderson to make a large impact out there.

Having a young, versatile, healthy back-up 2 who is an excellent defender would go a long way towards ensuring Ray continues to play at the level he is in the first two weeks of the season. It also reduces the exposure of other players on the team, particularly injury prone ones like Daniels and Pietrus, again increasing our chances to have much needed fresh legs later in the year.

I love what I've seen out of GH's defense against top 2s. He'd be a solid upgrade to our bench at SG -- don't see much question there.

Always find in interesting when some feel we'd be giving up too much, some feel it wouldn't be enough..... a 'king's ransom' vs. 'a pile of spare parts and unremarkable picks'.....

I wasn't talking about what the Celtics are giving up in the trade.

Just that there aren't enough minutes available for G.Henderson to make much of a difference to the C's chances this season. It's a bad spot for him ... being caught behind Ray Allen.

Tough to make a (large) difference when you're only playing 12-15mpg.

[Marcus13]

If you're wiling to give up two first round picks, I guarantee you they will give us Gerald Henderson.  He's been playing well, but that's a hefty price in this league that values draft picks

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I don't think Gerald Henderson would add much value to the Celtics (in the short term, this season).

He is a one position player and with Ray Allen gobbling up 34+ minutes at that position already there simply isn't enough minutes for Henderson to make a large impact out there.

Having a young, versatile, healthy back-up 2 who is an excellent defender would go a long way towards ensuring Ray continues to play at the level he is in the first two weeks of the season. It also reduces the exposure of other players on the team, particularly injury prone ones like Daniels and Pietrus, again increasing our chances to have much needed fresh legs later in the year.

I love what I've seen out of GH's defense against top 2s. He'd be a solid upgrade to our bench at SG -- don't see much question there.

Always find in interesting when some feel we'd be giving up too much, some feel it wouldn't be enough..... a 'king's ransom' vs. 'a pile of spare parts and unremarkable picks'.....

I wasn't talking about what the Celtics are giving up in the trade.

Just that there aren't enough minutes available for G.Henderson to make much of a difference to the C's chances this season. It's a bad spot for him ... being caught behind Ray Allen.

Tough to make a (large) difference when you're only playing 12-15mpg.

Agreed.  Acquiring a talented combo guard who could play 20-25mpg backing up Rondo and Ray would make more of a difference.  Some-one who could replace the Dooling/Daniels role and fill out the 9-man rotation with Pietrus, Bass and Wilcox (with Stiemsma, Daniels and Dooling available for situational minutes).