Changes to starting lineup

[OhioGreen]

I think the 1st and 2nd units need some tweaking.
Try Stiemsma and Daniels(Pietrus when healthy)on 1st unit. Greg seems to work very well with KG and gets more open looks for his J with Rondo at point. Ray, KG, and RR gives you three "go to" guys.
Put Paul and E'Twuan(not Bradley---who should be used in spots when pressuring inept point guards reaps big benefits)along with Bass,JO, and Dooling. Paul and Bass are the 'go to' guys, but JO,KD, and ET are also capable of some offense too!
Just seems that this would balance out both units. The way things are now(especially when Bradley comes in)the second unit REALLY struggles offensively, except for BB.

[Celtics4ever]

Doc isn't going to do this right now it would be a stab to his vets.  I thought Stiesmsa warrants another look too  but JO sure found the motivation to play again once Greg had that nice game.

[wdleehi]

Did we forget how this team played at the beginning of the year without Pierce in the starting lineup?

[clover]

Did we forget how this team played at the beginning of the year without Pierce in the starting lineup?

Apparently.

[2short]

If green were here I'd say yes bring Paul off  the bench.  Other than that no way, in a pinch Marquis could start at sf with the rest of starters.  same can be said for bass, dooling or stiemsma.  We really need the 2 headed monster of PP and Ray

[Celtics4ever]

PP was hurt though that is another matter, IMHO.

[nickagneta]

Let me see if I have this right.

After Pierce plays two straight starts in which he averaged 33 MPG, 22.5 PPG, 7 RPG, 4.5 APG and shot 50% from both the field and three point land, someone is saying that it is best for the team if he comes off the bench?

Can someone please explain that logic because I'm just not getting it?

[wdleehi]

Let me see if I have this right.

After Pierce plays two straight starts in which he averaged 33 MPG, 22.5 PPG, 7 RPG, 4.5 APG and shot 50% from both the field and three point land, someone is saying that it is best for the team if he comes off the bench?

Can someone please explain that logic because I'm just not getting it?

They didn't see the first couple of games?




I haven't gotten this idea for the past three years of putting one the stars on the bench so a lesser player could start. 

[nickagneta]

Let me see if I have this right.

After Pierce plays two straight starts in which he averaged 33 MPG, 22.5 PPG, 7 RPG, 4.5 APG and shot 50% from both the field and three point land, someone is saying that it is best for the team if he comes off the bench?

Can someone please explain that logic because I'm just not getting it?

They didn't see the first couple of games?




I haven't gotten this idea for the past three years of putting one the stars on the bench so a lesser player could start. 

Yeah, wd, neither have I. If you want the starters to play less, play them less. If you want the second team to have a scoring threat, change the substitution pattern and keep starters in with the bench players for continuity and a scoring punch.

You don't take players that have earned the right to start and have consistently shown that their starting unit is amongst the best 5 man units in the league and start taking players out of that unit for no reason.

[Boris Badenov]

Let me see if I have this right.

After Pierce plays two straight starts in which he averaged 33 MPG, 22.5 PPG, 7 RPG, 4.5 APG and shot 50% from both the field and three point land, someone is saying that it is best for the team if he comes off the bench?

Can someone please explain that logic because I'm just not getting it?

Lottery?

[greenpride32]

Of all the topics that keep resurfacing over the past few years (Rondo can't shoot, trade Rondo, Perkins trade, bring back Sheed, trade Ray, rebuild) this is the one that has me scratching my head the most.  Regardless on my opinion on the other subjects I can at least see some valid arguments from the other side, but this....

[OhioGreen]

Let me see if I have this right.

After Pierce plays two straight starts in which he averaged 33 MPG, 22.5 PPG, 7 RPG, 4.5 APG and shot 50% from both the field and three point land, someone is saying that it is best for the team if he comes off the bench?

Can someone please explain that logic because I'm just not getting it?

We have our first team with one great distributor,three great spot up shooters, and our ONLY player that can create his own offense in PP(he got counted as both)!
Our second team has no great distributor....not even a good one, really! One great spot up shooter, in BB, and no one that can create their own offense.
If the 1st unit gets off to a great start it's wonderful. Then the 2nd team grinds us to a halt, many times relinquishing the lead or a good part of it.  If first team starts out cold, we then bring in our second team that can't score! Big trouble!
Moving Greg to the first team makes him more effective because of RR, KG and Rays' passing. Quis is pretty much a wash.
Now you have PP on the second team who can create for himself, is a good passer and can work well scoring and getting BB the open shots. E'twuan from what small sample we've seen, can shoot it and create some on his own.  Just hasn't had the chance. Way more of a offensive threat than AB. JO is kind of a wash. Dooling is fair at both.
At least your offense doesn't grind to a halt when the big 4 aren't in! Not so many ups and downs, and I believe you'd see far less scoring droughts.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'd rather start Pavlovic than Daniels the way he's playing.

[kozlodoev]

I think the 1st and 2nd units need some tweaking.
Try Stiemsma and Daniels(Pietrus when healthy)on 1st unit. Greg seems to work very well with KG and gets more open looks for his J with Rondo at point. Ray, KG, and RR gives you three "go to" guys.
Put Paul and E'Twuan(not Bradley---who should be used in spots when pressuring inept point guards reaps big benefits)along with Bass,JO, and Dooling. Paul and Bass are the 'go to' guys, but JO,KD, and ET are also capable of some offense too!
Just seems that this would balance out both units. The way things are now(especially when Bradley comes in)the second unit REALLY struggles offensively, except for BB.

We just won 4 games in a row. Please don't tinker with lineup until it stops working.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think the 1st and 2nd units need some tweaking.
Try Stiemsma and Daniels(Pietrus when healthy)on 1st unit. Greg seems to work very well with KG and gets more open looks for his J with Rondo at point. Ray, KG, and RR gives you three "go to" guys.
Put Paul and E'Twuan(not Bradley---who should be used in spots when pressuring inept point guards reaps big benefits)along with Bass,JO, and Dooling. Paul and Bass are the 'go to' guys, but JO,KD, and ET are also capable of some offense too!
Just seems that this would balance out both units. The way things are now(especially when Bradley comes in)the second unit REALLY struggles offensively, except for BB.

We just won 4 games in a row. Please don't tinker with lineup until it stops working.

To be fair, we've used like 3 different starting line-ups during that span.