JO and Perk Starting Out Pretty Even

[Neurotic Guy]

I hate myself for posting this, but so far...

        Games    MPG  PPG  OR    TR   A   BS   TO   PER

K Perkins    5     25.8  6.2   1.2    5.6   .6  1.00  2.4  8.8

J O'Neal      5     22.4  7.0   1.0    3.8   .2  1.00  1.0  9.4

Yes, I'd give my eye teeth to have the trade back, but if the the stats continue as such for the season, what does it say, if anything, about Perk's value?  I don't discount the 'intangibles' his presence provides -- lord knows he seems a lot more active and intense out there than JO -- but, I half-expected Perk to be climbing the stat sheet a bit this year given his work ethic and more than a year removed from knee surgery.  I know, it's only 5 games.

[Kane3387]

I hate myself for posting this, but so far...

   Games     MPG    PPG  OR    TR   A   BS   TO   PER

K Perkins    5     25.8  6.2  1.2   5.6  .6  1.00  2.4  8.8

J O'Neal      5     22.4  7.0  1.0   3.8  .2  1.00  1.0  9.4

Yes, I'd give my eye teeth to have the trade back, but if the the stats continue as such for the season, what does it say, if anything, about Perk's value?  I don't discount the 'intangibles' his presence provides -- lord knows he seems a lot more active and intense out there than JO -- but, I half-expected Perk to be climbing the stat sheet a bit this year given his work ethic and more than a year removed from knee surgery.  I know, it's only 5 games.

Perk's contributions went beyond the stat sheet. Much like KG the numbers don't do the production justice.

[snively]

Perk's lost weight doesn't seem to be doing him any favors thus far. 

[coco]

I just don't think JO can keep it up a whole season. Not even a short season like this one.  Got no lift, looked slow.  I like that he is giving his all and that's comendable. 

To be honest sometimes I feel Stiesma looks better than JO out there....and concerns the heck out of me thinking he(Stiesma) will lose minutes to Wilcox once Wilcox returns from injury.

Got to love what JO is giving us, but I can't see him enduring for long stretches.

[hwangjini_1]

I just don't think JO can keep it up a whole season. Not even a short season like this one.  Got no lift, looked slow.  I like that he is giving his all and that's comendable. 

To be honest sometimes I feel Stiesma looks better than JO out there....and concerns the heck out of me thinking he(Stiesma) will lose minutes to Wilcox once Wilcox returns from injury.

Got to love what JO is giving us, but I can't see him enduring for long stretches.

true, but looking at perk's stats of about 6 points and 6 rebounds a game...it seems he probably will keep that up for this year and beyond. i guess that is one feature about perk that i will not miss, his poor offense.

i like perk, but even i had trouble defending his offense.

the key here is health. if JO stays healthy, his stats will pass perk. as far as defense, both are good though they have different styles i think.

perk relies upon muscle. JO is more about athleticism and blocks.

[PosImpos]

Perk is not The Chief, despite what one might have thought given the response to the trade.

A healthy Jermaine (elusive though he may be), even at this age, is still about equal with Perk in terms of overall value.  Higher upside offensively, not as big an impact defensively.

Perk is a great fit on the Thunder, and for that roster I think he's worth the money.  But on the Celtics, he'd be overpaid as a defensive role playing center who doesn't add much at all offensively and has an injury history.  I still don't regret the trade one bit.

[Who]

I've been a bit disappointed with both Perk and Ibaka so far for Oklahoma City this season. Neither one is pulling their weight (to date).

Oklahoma are not going to be the team to beat in the West without more from those two. Falling back into the pack.

[Greenbean]

I just don't think JO can keep it up a whole season. Not even a short season like this one.  Got no lift, looked slow.  I like that he is giving his all and that's comendable. 

To be honest sometimes I feel Stiesma looks better than JO out there....and concerns the heck out of me thinking he(Stiesma) will lose minutes to Wilcox once Wilcox returns from injury.

Got to love what JO is giving us, but I can't see him enduring for long stretches.

true, but looking at perk's stats of about 6 points and 6 rebounds a game...it seems he probably will keep that up for this year and beyond. i guess that is one feature about perk that i will not miss, his poor offense.

i like perk, but even i had trouble defending his offense.
the key here is health. if JO stays healthy, his stats will pass perk. as far as defense, both are good though they have different styles i think.

perk relies upon muscle. JO is more about athleticism and blocks.

LOL I dont think you would have any trouble defending his offense

[TA9]

Lol i would rather have Perkins than JO, why?
Jermaine seems to be sleeping half of the time on Defense.
And he doesnt bring the same toughness as Perk.

[apc]

no stat line for growls per game?

[Neurotic Guy]

Perk is not The Chief, despite what one might have thought given the response to the trade.

A healthy Jermaine (elusive though he may be), even at this age, is still about equal with Perk in terms of overall value.  Higher upside offensively, not as big an impact defensively.

Perk is a great fit on the Thunder, and for that roster I think he's worth the money.  But on the Celtics, he'd be overpaid as a defensive role playing center who doesn't add much at all offensively and has an injury history.  I still don't regret the trade one bit.

I do regret the trade if only because we'd potentially have the same roster, but Perk added -- which would make us a stronger team this year and would have made the C's stronger in the playoffs last year. More likely (or as likely) Perk would have been involved in an S&T before this year -- for more than we currently have. 

On the plus and humanistic side, it's possible JGs heart issue would not have been discovered if not for the trade, so I am glad for that.

[bbd24]

Are they pretty even in contract as well ?

How much money is Perk making for 6 ppg & 6 rpg ?

[TA9]

Are they pretty even in contract as well ?

How much money is Perk making for 6 ppg & 6 rpg ?

He is making 7 million this season?
And again what Perkins does on the floor doesnt show up in the Stat Sheet. Yes im my opinion he is Worth 7 million, even the fool Kwame Brown is making the same.

[PosImpos]

Are they pretty even in contract as well ?

How much money is Perk making for 6 ppg & 6 rpg ?

He is making 7 million this season?
And again what Perkins does on the floor doesnt show up in the Stat Sheet. Yes im my opinion he is Worth 7 million, even the fool Kwame Brown is making the same.

I think it comes down to what a team needs.

Is Perk worth $7 million to a team that has a 20 ppg scorer and a 30 ppg scorer in the starting lineup, with a 15-20 ppg guy off the bench, a team that just needs rebounds, defense, and a few put backs / open layups from its starting center?  Yes, absolutely.

Is Perk worth $7 million a year to a team that goes through dry spells offensively, has no inside game, will be rebuilding after this year, and needs health, consistency, energy, and athleticism more than anything?  No, not by a long shot.

[cman88]

Perk is not The Chief, despite what one might have thought given the response to the trade.

A healthy Jermaine (elusive though he may be), even at this age, is still about equal with Perk in terms of overall value.  Higher upside offensively, not as big an impact defensively.

Perk is a great fit on the Thunder, and for that roster I think he's worth the money.  But on the Celtics, he'd be overpaid as a defensive role playing center who doesn't add much at all offensively and has an injury history.  I still don't regret the trade one bit.

I do regret the trade if only because we'd potentially have the same roster, but Perk added -- which would make us a stronger team this year and would have made the C's stronger in the playoffs last year. More likely (or as likely) Perk would have been involved in an S&T before this year -- for more than we currently have. 

On the plus and humanistic side, it's possible JGs heart issue would not have been discovered if not for the trade, so I am glad for that.

theres no real indication that Perkins wouldve been with us this year...he probably wouldve bolted to OKC anyways and we wouldnt be left with much of anything...or I doubt Ainge wouldve done the trade.

Jeff Green if he can develop probably brings more value to the celtics next year than a roleplayer like Perkins