Is it too late to use the Amnesty Clause on JO

[LooseCannon]

Trading him because he's an expiring might be the best bet to get rid of him if it's needed.

Trading him as an expiring contract usually means taking back a non-expiring contract back in return, possibly with a young player or draft pick as compensation for the salary dump.

The same thing goes for anyone who wants to blow up the team and trade Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

[Jon]

Trading him because he's an expiring might be the best bet to get rid of him if it's needed.

Trading him as an expiring contract usually means taking back a non-expiring contract back in return, possibly with a young player or draft pick as compensation for the salary dump.

The same thing goes for anyone who wants to blow up the team and trade Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

Exactly.  And with JO, his contract isn't that great.  It's 6 million or so.  So some team can take 6 or 7 million off the books.  They're not going to give us that much to do that. 

And in return, as Loose Cannon notes, we'd likely have to take on a longer deal at the same price. 

Do we really want to do that? 

[Inside-Out]

Trading him because he's an expiring might be the best bet to get rid of him if it's needed.

Trading him as an expiring contract usually means taking back a non-expiring contract back in return, possibly with a young player or draft pick as compensation for the salary dump.

The same thing goes for anyone who wants to blow up the team and trade Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

Exactly.  And with JO, his contract isn't that great.  It's 6 million or so.  So some team can take 6 or 7 million off the books.  They're not going to give us that much to do that. 

And in return, as Loose Cannon notes, we'd likely have to take on a longer deal at the same price. 

Do we really want to do that? 

And do we really want to amnesty him (or KG) so they can go sign in Miami (where JO played before)?

[MBz]

Trading him because he's an expiring might be the best bet to get rid of him if it's needed.

Trading him as an expiring contract usually means taking back a non-expiring contract back in return, possibly with a young player or draft pick as compensation for the salary dump.

The same thing goes for anyone who wants to blow up the team and trade Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

Exactly.  And with JO, his contract isn't that great.  It's 6 million or so.  So some team can take 6 or 7 million off the books.  They're not going to give us that much to do that. 

And in return, as Loose Cannon notes, we'd likely have to take on a longer deal at the same price. 

Do we really want to do that? 

And do we really want to amnesty him (or KG) so they can go sign in Miami (where JO played before)?

Yes.  It'll make Miami worse if he's on the floor. Haha.

[LooseCannon]

And do we really want to amnesty him (or KG) so they can go sign in Miami (where JO played before)?

If the Celtics have to go into full rebuilding mode, I don't really care if any moves that might improve the team also help the Heat in the short-term when Boston doesn't have a championship window.  (I might care if it helps the Lakers.)

That doesn't mean I want to trade Jermaine O'Neal to Miami for Mike Miller and two second-round draft picks.

[vinnie]

What do you guys want him to do?  He's getting the Mikki Moore treatment right now.

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Do you not watch the games?  Since the end of last year he's been getting the most phantom fouls.  How is he supposed to be aggressive on D or get into any kind of rhythm when he always has to sit down?

Regardless he still provides average to above average defense.  That's all he needs to do, not score on offense.  If he wants to take open 12 footers, that's fine because he'll start making them.  How the heck is he worth amnestying?

Are the "phantom" fouls the reason he moves like his feet are in cement? Are they also the reason he can't finish around the rim anymore and has 8 points and 9 rebounds in 60 minutes played so far?

[kozlodoev]

Trading him because he's an expiring might be the best bet to get rid of him if it's needed.

Trading him as an expiring contract usually means taking back a non-expiring contract back in return, possibly with a young player or draft pick as compensation for the salary dump.

The same thing goes for anyone who wants to blow up the team and trade Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett.

So what? Who are you going to use all that cap space on next season? Kris Humphries?

[pearljammer10]

If the team doesnt let JO get involved in anything, how is he supposed to produce numbers. Its like the team doesnt even look at him when he is on the floor... JO still has some good offense left in him, I dont understand.

[j804]

If the team doesnt let JO get involved in anything, how is he supposed to produce numbers. Its like the team doesnt even look at him when he is on the floor... JO still has some good offense left in him, I dont understand.

What are you talking about the guy has no lift and can't finish over Guards let alone guys his size he's awful

[ugh]

I'd be ok with starting anyone over JO now....maybe give Steitsy a chance to see if he can develop his rebounding game because he can't be any worse.

[droopdog7]

To answer the question directly, it is in fact to late to amnesty JO.  There was actually a deadline before the season started.  Won't be able to use it again until the end of season.

And as others have said, it would do us NO good anyway.

Also as has been said, I am convinced it will be used on PP eventually.

[vinnie]

If the team doesnt let JO get involved in anything, how is he supposed to produce numbers. Its like the team doesnt even look at him when he is on the floor... JO still has some good offense left in him, I dont understand.

He had at least three easy layup/putback opportunities last night and missed all three badly because he can't get off the ground. What impact does the team not letting him get involved in anything have on his paltry 9 rebounds in 60 minutes?

[PosImpos]

Regardless he still provides average to above average defense.  That's all he needs to do, not score on offense. 

I completely disagree.  This team desperately needs offensive production from the center position, especially now that KG looks like he might struggle to score 10 ppg this season.

[thedawg]

We already have $9mil from Green's voided contract, right?  As bad as JO has been, I'd still try to keep him as a backup since we are so short on centers.  But I'm jealous of the teams with centers who don't mind contact and rebound and finish.

Ridiculous that the NBA doesnt have a contingency plan in event of Green´s case. Why are teams supposed to suffer for such unlucky things. The player power is too much.

Back to topic.....I dont think doing an Amnesty on JO is going to help us alot when we are in dire need of big guys at the moment. Even if we did an Amnesty on JO´s contract and we got all the dollars to spend towards another player, I am not sure we would get any good player now. I think JO is a better option as a trade bait since his contract is up this season.

We got all the tools for next summer´s free agency as we get rid of KG, JO, Ray Allen and supposedly, Rasheed and Shaq, of the cap. That should give us good freedom in acquiring whatever player we need to compliment Rondo. The only word Danny Ainge needs to be using is: "REBUILDING". In all honesty, and as my humble opinion (which might be quite harsh), it is quite sad to be looking at DA´s attempt to try to add more wood to the old fire in order to hang on to title hopes. We have to accept the fact that we are not ready to compete this season with the bench we got. Bass was a nice addition but we are missing too much and should be looking towards the 2012 draft to find a franchise-changing player to build the team around (along with Rondo).

[TA9]

This guy is WASHED UP!
I just dont know how a former all star like Jermaine can go from being SO GOOD to SO BAD!