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Too Attached to Players
« on: December 29, 2011, 09:02:57 AM »

Offline celtics2

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Too many Sports fans get too attached to their players. If you were a CEO or an Owner of a business what would you be doing to see to it that the Team stays successful. Look to successful teams such as the Lakers, or Companies like Microsoft. They were planning for the future back in the past. The future is now. The Celtios have been dismal at drafting and trading. Too many years Celtics mourned bad luck. It was bad management allowing Soouts to venture into the wrecks we financed.
Most understood the cost down the road getting KG and Allen. One ring in 4 years was not worth it. If it weren't for picking up Posey maybe no ring. We slept with the Devil now we'll pay his due.

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Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 09:04:05 AM »

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Too many Sports fans get too attached to their players. If you were a CEO or an Owner of a business what would you be doing to see to it that the Team stays successful. Look to successful teams such as the Lakers, or Companies like Microsoft. They were planning for the future back in the past. The future is now. The Celtios have been dismal at drafting and trading. Too many years Celtics mourned bad luck. It was bad management allowing Soouts to venture into the wrecks we financed.
Most understood the cost down the road getting KG and Allen. One ring in 4 years was not worth it. If it weren't for picking up Posey maybe no ring. We slept with the Devil now we'll pay his due.

Want more Kool Aid or the future?

Too many fans get too attached to improper capitalization  ;D
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Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 09:10:01 AM »

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Too many Sports fans get too attached to their players. If you were a CEO or an Owner of a business what would you be doing to see to it that the Team stays successful. Look to successful teams such as the Lakers, or Companies like Microsoft. They were planning for the future back in the past. The future is now. The Celtios have been dismal at drafting and trading. Too many years Celtics mourned bad luck. It was bad management allowing Soouts to venture into the wrecks we financed.
Most understood the cost down the road getting KG and Allen. One ring in 4 years was not worth it. If it weren't for picking up Posey maybe no ring. We slept with the Devil now we'll pay his due.

Want more Kool Aid or the future?


fans are fans, of course they get attached to players. its normal and natural for any sport and market.

personally, i root for the name on the front of the jersey first, however i am a HUGE pierce fan.

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 09:11:06 AM »

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  One NBA title in four years after 2 decades of mediocrity was absolutely worth it.  

  The Boston Celtics as legitimate title contender for four years after 20 years of being an also ran was absolutely worth it.

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 09:12:00 AM »

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One ring in 4 years was not worth it.


i WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with this.  after everything we went through as a fan base since the 90's....1 title is definitely worth it!  

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 09:15:07 AM »

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Yes, I get attached to players, especially the core players who have sacrificed, wroked, and embodied Celtic pride from the moment they came here.

I grew up during an era when getting attached to a team meant getting attached to it's players as well ... when players weren't traded every time something was a little shaky, when loyalty was more than a word, and when everyone wasn't yelling "trade!" every time the team was struggling.

Personally I prefer to hang onto those values and traditions, and only consider trading players when it has a substantial chance of affecting the team in a positive way for the future, without comnpromising a bid for the championship now.

Yes, I'm attached to our core players, and I pray that Ray, Paul and KG retire as Celtics, whatever that requires, and I hope Rondo is here as the core to build this team around for the future.

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Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 09:33:47 AM »

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Let's see, one ring in 4 years. 5 to rebuild depending how much old furniture we keep around. That's 9 years with a Snake Oil Salesman's guarantee. We may court that 2 decade trendline again. History does repeat.

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 09:35:12 AM »

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One ring in 4 years was not worth it.


i WHOLEHEARTEDLY disagree with this.  after everything we went through as a fan base since the 90's....1 title is definitely worth it!  

We were contending almost every year after 08 apart from the last one, where we got what we deserved for relying on Shaq and JO.

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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 09:49:11 AM »

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Let's see, one ring in 4 years. 5 to rebuild depending how much old furniture we keep around. That's 9 years with a Snake Oil Salesman's guarantee. We may court that 2 decade trendline again. History does repeat.


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The Celtics have been legit contenders for every year this big 3 has been together.

Ainge is set up with cap space to sign talent now that they are rebuilding.


If this season does not go well (like not making the playoffs) Ainge can trade Allen and KG this year.

Are you aware of how difficult it is to build a dynasty in the NBA? This has been a dang good team for 5 years...thats a pretty good run.

How do you think Dallas feels about their team? Do they have fans that are lamenting 1 Title in the last 9 years?


Give me a break. These kinds of posts are why I avoid these forums when things are going bad. No one wants to have rational discussions. Just inflammatory posts about how "terrible" the team is. Why even bother posting this?

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 10:04:25 AM »

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The point of being a fan is getting attached to players. Players make the team, both the present and the past. I am a Cs fan because of Russell, Cowens, Bird and Ray allen. The retired numbers in the garden are the reason there are Celtics fans.

With that being said I hate the clean out the house rebuilds of today's NBA. Years ago Red new what he was doing by figuring out ways to jump ahead in draft and grab star talents then place them on vet teams. This cycle fell apart with the Reggie Lewis and Len Bias tragedys.

In that model i would love (as ive said many times) to see the Cs use JO and either avery or a pick for OJ Mayo, then cross my figures that we can hit a home run in the up coming draft. Then next year keep the core together Rondo,ray,and paul..figure KG will retire. Add youth around them and let young players learn how to win.

   
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Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 10:11:28 AM »

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although i dont typically get attached to players, in the age of free agency, i dont fault anyone for being attached to a player. im attached to pierce.  thats part of being a fan.  heaven forbid fans have fun instead of being to "realistic", "objective", "critical", "non-biased" or any other adjective used. 

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 10:13:02 AM »

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Let's see, one ring in 4 years. 5 to rebuild depending how much old furniture we keep around. That's 9 years with a Snake Oil Salesman's guarantee. We may court that 2 decade trendline again. History does repeat.


::) ::)

The Celtics have been legit contenders for every year this big 3 has been together.

Ainge is set up with cap space to sign talent now that they are rebuilding.


If this season does not go well (like not making the playoffs) Ainge can trade Allen and KG this year.

Are you aware of how difficult it is to build a dynasty in the NBA? This has been a dang good team for 5 years...thats a pretty good run.

How do you think Dallas feels about their team? Do they have fans that are lamenting 1 Title in the last 9 years?


Give me a break. These kinds of posts are why I avoid these forums when things are going bad. No one wants to have rational discussions. Just inflammatory posts about how "terrible" the team is. Why even bother posting this?

I saw nothing inflammatory in my post. Just some cold facts. We do live in a free debating Society with differences of opinion. Too much Kook Aid makes one think everytnings just fine. Cousy had a very sober view of the Celtics when he did the pre game shows. At first I disliked it, un-Celtic like.  Then History proved him quite prophetic. Red muct be turning and turning with a mere 1 finger ornament in 2 decades.

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 10:13:12 AM »

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I'm not particularly attached to players.  Oh, I was attached to Perk and I've got my favorites.  But if it's time to trade Pierce--because we somehow can make a positive move despite his contract--I'm even ready for that.

However, the idea that one championship wasn't worth it is ridiculous.  They were very competitive for four years, and however a team gets very competitive, it generally has to retool and rebuild after four years.

Danny's had some good draft picks and some bad ones, and his maneuvers to get KG and Ray here were great.  Can he pull off the improbable again, quickly?  That'll mean a lot in whether he's just a good GM or an exceptional one.

But he's a competitive cuss who tends to get very good at what he does.  A good part of that, no doubt, is being persistent and not getting discouraged from having worthy goals.  That's why I don't count him out of the DH stakes until Howard is moved.  I also don't discount his ability to get another great cornerstone with his cap space, some way, somehow, next year if DH doesn't work out (as he more likely won't).

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2011, 10:16:03 AM »

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Let's see, one ring in 4 years. 5 to rebuild depending how much old furniture we keep around. That's 9 years with a Snake Oil Salesman's guarantee. We may court that 2 decade trendline again. History does repeat.


::) ::)

The Celtics have been legit contenders for every year this big 3 has been together.

Ainge is set up with cap space to sign talent now that they are rebuilding.


If this season does not go well (like not making the playoffs) Ainge can trade Allen and KG this year.

Are you aware of how difficult it is to build a dynasty in the NBA? This has been a dang good team for 5 years...thats a pretty good run.

How do you think Dallas feels about their team? Do they have fans that are lamenting 1 Title in the last 9 years?


Give me a break. These kinds of posts are why I avoid these forums when things are going bad. No one wants to have rational discussions. Just inflammatory posts about how "terrible" the team is. Why even bother posting this?
This

If someone had said to me a few years ago...How would you like to have maybe 3 HOFers, one of the best young pgs in the league, a ring, another finals trip that goes to game 7, and when they start to get old you'll have a ton of cap space coming to you

I'd have said "Pllleeeaasssse...oh pretty pretty pleeeassseee.....I'll give you my watch! I'll give you my hat too!.  Pleeeassseee"

Re: Too Attached to Players
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 10:19:44 AM »

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Let's see, one ring in 4 years. 5 to rebuild depending how much old furniture we keep around. That's 9 years with a Snake Oil Salesman's guarantee. We may court that 2 decade trendline again. History does repeat.


::) ::)

The Celtics have been legit contenders for every year this big 3 has been together.

Ainge is set up with cap space to sign talent now that they are rebuilding.


If this season does not go well (like not making the playoffs) Ainge can trade Allen and KG this year.

Are you aware of how difficult it is to build a dynasty in the NBA? This has been a dang good team for 5 years...thats a pretty good run.

How do you think Dallas feels about their team? Do they have fans that are lamenting 1 Title in the last 9 years?


Give me a break. These kinds of posts are why I avoid these forums when things are going bad. No one wants to have rational discussions. Just inflammatory posts about how "terrible" the team is. Why even bother posting this?

I saw nothing inflammatory in my post. Just some cold facts. We do live in a free debating Society with differences of opinion. Too much Kook Aid makes one think everytnings just fine. Cousy had a very sober view of the Celtics when he did the pre game shows. At first I disliked it, un-Celtic like.  Then History proved him quite prophetic. Red muct be turning and turning with a mere 1 finger ornament in 2 decades.

Okay so now I understand. You need to see titles every year, or at least every other.

I would guess you are in the minority.


I think for goals as a team, a title every year admirable. For a fan to expect a title every single year is masochistic and I see why you are so down on the Celtics now.