Rajon Rondo stats

[heitingas]

PTS 26.5

AST 12.5

REB 6.5|DR 5.5|OR 1.0

STL 2.5

FG% 0.529|FGM-FGA 9.0-17.0

FT% 0.696|FTM-FTA 8.0-11-5

3P% 0.250|3PM-3PA 0.5-2.0

PER 26.59

Amazing

[j804]

Yes he's been amazing it's our other pieces that need to step up, Garnett I'm talking about you. I can't assess anything yet though it's still preseason if you look at how many games weve played.

Not worried yet.

[jc3celticsphan]

well hes gotta keep it up and stay healthy and blah and blah n more blah thats probably whats going to be posted on here but rajon is a beast.. hes actually scoring people! those were against good teams too btw

[nickagneta]

I love everything he has done except the turnovers. There's no way he should be averaging 6 turnovers per game. Other than that, he's been awesome.

[Fafnir]

I love everything he has done except the turnovers. There's no way he should be averaging 6 turnovers per game. Other than that, he's been awesome.

Here's the strange thing, his turnover % is actually down from what it was last year. But his usage is now at 29% which is way way way up from last years 18%

29% is LeBron or Paul Pierce 2004-2005 levels of usage.

[PosImpos]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

[Celtics18]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

[PosImpos]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

guys who put up 24-25+ points while still averaging over 6-8 rebounds and 6-7 assists with a steal and a block will still be more impressive to voters (Bron, Durant, Melo, Rose etc).

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

[BballTim]

I love everything he has done except the turnovers. There's no way he should be averaging 6 turnovers per game. Other than that, he's been awesome.

Here's the strange thing, his turnover % is actually down from what it was last year. But his usage is now at 29% which is way way way up from last years 18%

29% is LeBron or Paul Pierce 2004-2005 levels of usage.

  This is why I hate turnover%. It's IMO a useless stat.

  I think that part of Rondo's turnover issue is just getting on the same page as his teammates, especially the new ones. Bass (in particular) needs to be better at expecting passes. It's kind of like the old adage about Larry, that if you weren't ready for his passes one of them would hit you in the head, only Rondo's passes are usually bounce passes that end up out of bounds.

[greenpride32]

I'd expect his shot attempts and with that his scoring to go down significantly once Pierce returns.

[BballTim]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

  Rondo is in the conversation for top 5 point guards and has been for quite some time. It's mainly among his detractors on the blog that he needs to improve his numbers to get there.

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

  He was closer to 9/14/5/2 and was among the contenders. It's worth pointing out that the numbers you expect from him are roughly the same or slightly better than what CP3 put up last year.

[Celtics18]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

guys who put up 24-25+ points while still averaging over 6-8 rebounds and 6-7 assists with a steal and a block will still be more impressive to voters (Bron, Durant, Melo, Rose etc).

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

He's already in the conversation as a top five point guard.  I suspect, as I've suspected all off-season, that there's another level coming for Rajon Rondo this season.  I don't think his play in these first two games was a fluke.

Paul Pierce may not just have been blowing smoke when he claimed that he thought Rondo would be an MVP candidate.

[PosImpos]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

  Rondo is in the conversation for top 5 point guards and has been for quite some time. It's mainly among his detractors on the blog that he needs to improve his numbers to get there.

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

  He was closer to 9/14/5/2 and was among the contenders. It's worth pointing out that the numbers you expect from him are roughly the same or slightly better than what CP3 put up last year.

right, numbers that CP3 put up in an off-year (although Rondo will never come close to Paul's free throw and 3pt shooting percentages).

Paul didn't win any awards last year with those numbers.


As for the top 5 point guard conversation, I think it depends greatly on who you are talking / listening to.  Pundits on ESPN, NBA TV, TNT etc often list CP3, Rose, Williams, Westbrook, and Nash as their top 5.  Rondo only sometimes is included on that list, and rarely if ever near the top, unless it's an analyst looking to make a controversial pick.

[jc3celticsphan]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

  Rondo is in the conversation for top 5 point guards and has been for quite some time. It's mainly among his detractors on the blog that he needs to improve his numbers to get there.

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

  He was closer to 9/14/5/2 and was among the contenders. It's worth pointing out that the numbers you expect from him are roughly the same or slightly better than what CP3 put up last year.

right, numbers that CP3 put up in an off-year (although Rondo will never come close to Paul's free throw and 3pt shooting percentages).

Paul didn't win any awards last year with those numbers.


As for the top 5 point guard conversation, I think it depends greatly on who you are talking / listening to.  Pundits on ESPN, NBA TV, TNT etc often list CP3, Rose, Williams, Westbrook, and Nash as their top 5.  Rondo only sometimes is included on that list, and rarely if ever near the top, unless it's an analyst looking to make a controversial pick.

wow. those are better numbers then cp3 last year. 26 and 12 are you kidding me smh wow not top 5.. westchuck top 5 wow just wow!

[Celtics18]

it's only two games . . . last season he started off with some ridiculous numbers, too.

still, i'd look for rondo to average 15-17 points this season with around 4-5 rebounds and 10-11 assists.  a couple steals too.

basically, much like his numbers of the past couple of years only with more points and a hair fewer assists.  also perhaps not as high a FG% as he tries to pick up more of the scoring load.

if he could stay at near 70% free throws that would be huge, but I'm expect a regression to the mean there. maybe he'll stick around 65% (we can dream).

If he can go 16 ppg, 5 rpg, 11 apg, 2.5 spg, 50% fg, and 70% ft with around 3.5 or lower topg while leading the team to 40 something wins, that's legit MVP consideration.

eh, he could put himself in the conversation for top 5 point guards with those numbers, but unless the Celtics finish with the best or second-best regular season record, i don't see it happening.

  Rondo is in the conversation for top 5 point guards and has been for quite some time. It's mainly among his detractors on the blog that he needs to improve his numbers to get there.

Rondo would have to average 14-14-5-2 like he was at the start of last season, or 20-11-5-2 (as he is now) while leading the team to a top 5 record to really contend for MVP.

  He was closer to 9/14/5/2 and was among the contenders. It's worth pointing out that the numbers you expect from him are roughly the same or slightly better than what CP3 put up last year.

right, numbers that CP3 put up in an off-year (although Rondo will never come close to Paul's free throw and 3pt shooting percentages).

Paul didn't win any awards last year with those numbers.


As for the top 5 point guard conversation, I think it depends greatly on who you are talking / listening to.  Pundits on ESPN, NBA TV, TNT etc often list CP3, Rose, Williams, Westbrook, and Nash as their top 5.  Rondo only sometimes is included on that list, and rarely if ever near the top, unless it's an analyst looking to make a controversial pick.

Your choice of words was "in the conversation."  Sure, there's some debate about where Rondo ranks, but even by your estimation of our point guard, you admit that he's in the conversation.