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Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« on: December 19, 2011, 03:21:52 PM »

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To an offer sheet ?
And how much will it be so the Hornets doesn't match ?

I like to have him as our starting SG after this year, have Ray resign and come off the bench.

Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 03:23:57 PM »

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he would be great but also hard to get, NO will prob market him heavy this year and pay him max money when his rookie deal is over
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 03:26:04 PM »

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He's likely to demand a near max extension, and after having traded CP3 for a package he was the headline of I doubt they'll refuse him.

But hey the Bulls avoided overpaying Ben Gordon, so their is hope for NOH still.

Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 03:34:41 PM »

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But hey the Bulls avoided overpaying Ben Gordon, so their is hope for NOH still.

They did?  (I guess they did if there was talk of the max for him, but anyone who would sign Ben Gordon to a max literally is insane).


Anyways, I think Gordon actually would be worth the max and I think he'll get it.  He's a very promising player and the most promising at a position that is actually quite thin in truly promising young players.  Won't end up here though.
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 03:36:02 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player.  unless you can get him on a reasonable deal, I don't see the point of signing him unless we already have some top shelf talent in place.
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 03:42:28 PM »

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But hey the Bulls avoided overpaying Ben Gordon, so their is hope for NOH still.

They did?  (I guess they did if there was talk of the max for him, but anyone who would sign Ben Gordon to a max literally is insane).


Anyways, I think Gordon actually would be worth the max and I think he'll get it.  He's a very promising player and the most promising at a position that is actually quite thin in truly promising young players.  Won't end up here though.
They offered him around $10 million per year and he rejected it, they moved on after that and he signed for a similar value deal with the Pistons.

I don't think he was ever discussed for a max contract, I just was drawing an example of a simlar player who also had large contract demands.

Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 04:00:47 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player. 

What makes you say that? He is the number 6 most efficient shooting guard in the entire league, and he's the youngest in the top 20, except for James Harden. In his third year in the league he is a sliver away from being a top 5 player at his position, and two of the players above him are 33 and 34 (meaning their production is going to fall off, while he has tremendous upside). Number 1 is Dwyane Wade, who is unlikely to get better than he is ...

Seriously, man. By your logic Blake Griffin is only a complementary player (he is only the 6th most efficient PF at his young age).

Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 04:01:55 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player.  unless you can get him on a reasonable deal, I don't see the point of signing him unless we already have some top shelf talent in place.
Yeah, 23 points per game is a really really nice compliment. Have you watched him play? Besides his scoring, hes also a very good defender.

Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 04:05:03 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player. 

What makes you say that? He is the number 6 most efficient shooting guard in the entire league, and he's the youngest in the top 20, except for James Harden. In his third year in the league he is a sliver away from being a top 5 player at his position, and two of the players above him are 33 and 34 (meaning their production is going to fall off, while he has tremendous upside). Number 1 is Dwyane Wade, who is unlikely to get better than he is ...

Seriously, man. By your logic Blake Griffin is only a complementary player (he is only the 6th most efficient PF at his young age).

Exactly.  What does "complimentary" even mean?  Okay, sure he needs other players who "compliment" him as well, great so does everyone.

As you said Gordon is one of the best players at his position already and it's a thin position going forward.

Is he a franchise player?  Probably not.  But a multi-year All Star (a lock for Gordon IMO) is not a "complimentary player".
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 04:06:19 PM »

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We could offer Eric Gordon the maximum amount possible and NO would match immediately. I think the only chance for him leaving NO is a sign and trade or him excepting the qualifying offer so he can be an unrestricted FA the year after. I expect him to average 25-28 on a team where he is the main scoring option.
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 04:08:48 PM »

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Gordon would be a fine #2 option on a championship caliber team. I would love to see him in green. Not sure he is worth a max deal though. This is what he'll probably command regardless.

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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 04:18:16 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player.  unless you can get him on a reasonable deal, I don't see the point of signing him unless we already have some top shelf talent in place.
Yeah, 23 points per game is a really really nice compliment. Have you watched him play? Besides his scoring, hes also a very good defender.

What constitutes a defender as 'very good'?

Cuz dude is listed at 6'3. I know he doesn't lack for commitment, but he's undersized.

Eric Gordon is a very good scorer. He'll be that for a long time, and def a great piece to build around. Dunno if I think he's ever going to be the best player on a playoff team though.

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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 04:19:46 PM »

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If Green looks ok to come back next year and Gordon has a great year with NO then I would be ok with the celtics giving Gordon a max deal. Gordon will prove to be a top 5 SG in the league this year.

Going into the future with Rondo,Gordon,and a healthy jeff green isnt a bad look for the Cs



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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 05:19:12 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player.  

What makes you say that? He is the number 6 most efficient shooting guard in the entire league, and he's the youngest in the top 20, except for James Harden. In his third year in the league he is a sliver away from being a top 5 player at his position, and two of the players above him are 33 and 34 (meaning their production is going to fall off, while he has tremendous upside). Number 1 is Dwyane Wade, who is unlikely to get better than he is ...

Seriously, man. By your logic Blake Griffin is only a complementary player (he is only the 6th most efficient PF at his young age).

Exactly.  What does "complimentary" even mean?  Okay, sure he needs other players who "compliment" him as well, great so does everyone.

As you said Gordon is one of the best players at his position already and it's a thin position going forward.

Is he a franchise player?  Probably not.  But a multi-year All Star (a lock for Gordon IMO) is not a "complimentary player".

complementary player, as in, he's not a guy i'd pay max dollars to be my main guy, but if i already had a nice core in place and needed a nice #3 option at SG to put me over the top, i'd make a move for him.

eric gordon is not a guy you spend a lot of money on if you don't have any main scoring options in place already.


as the team enters rebuilding, i think it's going to be very important not to jump at the first chance to sign a nice exciting scorer.  it's important to wait to spend that money on somebody who can really be a valuable building block moving forward -- and by that i mean somebody who you can legitimately build around, or who at least won't impede your ability to acquire a player like that. 

if you spend money just for the sake of spending money, even if you spend it on good players, you're likely to end up like Detroit, or maybe Houston as a best case scenario.  you don't want to invest a lot of money in guys who are nice players but who will only raise your team a few steps out of the NBA basement and keep you stuck on the verge of the playoffs.
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Re: Should the Celtics sign Eric Gordon
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 05:38:07 PM »

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Eric Gordon is nothing better than a complementary player.  unless you can get him on a reasonable deal, I don't see the point of signing him unless we already have some top shelf talent in place.
Yeah, 23 points per game is a really really nice compliment. Have you watched him play? Besides his scoring, hes also a very good defender.

What constitutes a defender as 'very good'?

Cuz dude is listed at 6'3. I know he doesn't lack for commitment, but he's undersized.

Eric Gordon is a very good scorer. He'll be that for a long time, and def a great piece to build around. Dunno if I think he's ever going to be the best player on a playoff team though.

So since he is a little short for his position means he can't be a good defender?  Joe Dumars was also 6'3, and one of the greatest defensive shooting guards of all time.  Not comparing him to Joe but I think Gordon has the capability of being a very good defensive player.