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Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2011, 01:02:09 PM »

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Some of the posters on this blog totally baffle me. Some of the same people who were screeching about Jeff Green being a terrible player and mocking his (near) re-signing are the same people saying how screwed the team is without him. Hilarious.

I am not a Jeff Green fan, which is why even prior to this serious medical situation, I had the Celtics third at best in the East and a second round out in the playoffs. However, it appears to me that the Celtics highly value Green given that they were willing to pay him $9 million this year. So, given that, and given the fact that he was penciled in to be Pierce's main backup, I have moved their seeding down to 4th-6th and think they could now go out either in the first round or the second round of the playoffs.
I was a Jeff Green fan when he was with OKC. But even with that I thought we'd have been lucky to make the second round. I love the C's, but I just don't feel like we have the youth and athleticism to run with Miami, Chicago, Philly and now NY. Not when we rely so heavily on the Big 3. But, we've yet to see them play a game this season, so who know? I haven't given up hope yet, and Danny will have to do something by the deadline. In the meantime, Marquis is going to see the floor a ton.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2011, 01:03:52 PM »

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Some of the posters on this blog totally baffle me. Some of the same people who were screeching about Jeff Green being a terrible player and mocking his (near) re-signing are the same people saying how screwed the team is without him. Hilarious.

I am not a Jeff Green fan, which is why even prior to this serious medical situation, I had the Celtics third at best in the East and a second round out in the playoffs. However, it appears to me that the Celtics highly value Green given that they were willing to pay him $9 million this year. So, given that, and given the fact that he was penciled in to be Pierce's main backup, I have moved their seeding down to 4th-6th and think they could now go out either in the first round or the second round of the playoffs.
I was a Jeff Green fan when he was with OKC. But even with that I thought we'd have been lucky to make the second round. I love the C's, but I just don't feel like we have the youth and athleticism to run with Miami, Chicago, Philly and now NY. Not when we rely so heavily on the Big 3. But, we've yet to see them play a game this season, so who know? I haven't given up hope yet, and Danny will have to do something by the deadline. In the meantime, Marquis is going to see the floor a ton.
I feel pretty much the same. And yes, Marquis will get a lot of minutes...

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2011, 01:18:37 PM »

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Have to say my first thought when this whole situation started was exactly the title of this thread.  With an aging team Green figured to be the key guy because he could eat up regular season minutes.  Plus you have to figure there will be lots of injuries because older players break down so the opportunity for him was huge.  I thought he was smart to only go for a one year contract.

Don't see how this team can get past this but if there's a way I think we have the GM to find it. 

Right now on paper we're a 4th to 6th place team and out by round 2 of playoffs.  Hopefully Danny can find a way to prevent that from happening.  Bottom line is in the NBA its all about talent and we don't have enough plus a lot the talent we do have is likely to break down.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2011, 01:23:04 PM »

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Marquise can back up Pierce.  JR Smith would be a nice pick up.  I think he'd help us more than Green just because of his confidence alone.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2011, 01:27:56 PM »

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Typical Celtics fans overreacting. At least give Jeff Green your best wishes before giving up. The 2012 season hasn't started yet for it be over.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2011, 01:29:36 PM »

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I doubt we have the goods to beat Miami, because they are getting stronger. Heck I think we are behind the Bulls. This is 1992 all over again.

The real challenge to stay relevant with Pierce and Rondo going forward from this season.

What goods does Miami or Chicago have besides Wade, James, Bosh and Rose?

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2011, 01:30:55 PM »

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C'mon ctrey - it's never over. That's why the games are played, man.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2011, 01:37:20 PM »

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As I stated yesterday on this board, once we learn Jeff Green is Reggie Lewis, our season will be toast. Who is backing up Pierce? Oh, right, my grandma and some commie who should be a towel manager in the D-League. So for trading Perk we will get the 23rd pick in the 2012 draft. YEAH!!! So Excited!


BREAK THE TEAM UP NOW. SEASON OVER.

Break up this thread because it's ridiculous. I didn't know the Celtics played yet? You sound insensitive with your Jeff Green, Reggie Lewis comparison.

My goodness Celtics fans can be so negative. I'm starting to believe the reputation about Celtics fans being negative and pessimistic.     

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2011, 01:38:44 PM »

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Typical Celtics fans overreacting. At least give Jeff Green your best wishes before giving up. The 2012 season hasn't started yet for it be over.
Not overreacting.  Just relaying an NBA fact of life.  Talent wins, aging teams tend not to.

The Celtics basically lost a starter for the season with little hope of replacing him with anything close to equal talent.  It's the same for any other team...lose a key player for the season and you're screwed. 

It's not like the NFL where you can bring in a no name replacement and through scheme cover up the weakness.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2011, 01:39:34 PM »

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I doubt we have the goods to beat Miami, because they are getting stronger. Heck I think we are behind the Bulls. This is 1992 all over again.

The real challenge to stay relevant with Pierce and Rondo going forward from this season.

What goods does Miami or Chicago have besides Wade, James, Bosh and Rose?

well I think the bulls with Rip are now a legit contendor...but until rose learns to be a playmaker I think we will continue to hear the "Rose needs someone who can take the scoring load off!"

problem is the Bulls keep signing good players who NEED to be set up...Ie Rip hamilton, Carlos boozer

Miami is the same old miami...do we really think Eddy curry or shane battier pushes them over the top?

Celtics fans seem to have blanked out all the injuries we suffered and only having 2 real bigs playing in the playoffs when talking about getting decimated by miami...IF we are healthy going into the playoffs I think we can beat them.

Miami DESTROYED Chicago just as bad as they did the celtics...if Lebron/wade play like they did against us/chicago last year this year we wont do anything...but if they play like they did against dallas then we can beat them...lebron was hitting contested 3's, fadeaway 3's I thought the guy finally made the jump

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2011, 01:41:10 PM »

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As I stated yesterday on this board, once we learn Jeff Green is Reggie Lewis, our season will be toast. Who is backing up Pierce? Oh, right, my grandma and some commie who should be a towel manager in the D-League. So for trading Perk we will get the 23rd pick in the 2012 draft. YEAH!!! So Excited!


BREAK THE TEAM UP NOW. SEASON OVER.

stop with the green is lewis.  the analogy sucks and is ridiculous.  reggie is dead and green is alive. to compare the two is highly insensitive to reggie's legacy and his family.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2011, 01:41:53 PM »

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Marquise can back up Pierce.  JR Smith would be a nice pick up.  I think he'd help us more than Green just because of his confidence alone.
JR SMith is locked into a contract in China till MArch, No? Not only that, I thought he had a pretty bad injury while he was over there. Might be confusing him with someone else, though..

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2011, 01:42:38 PM »

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Typical Celtics fans overreacting. At least give Jeff Green your best wishes before giving up. The 2012 season hasn't started yet for it be over.
Not overreacting.  Just relaying an NBA fact of life.  Talent wins, aging teams tend not to.

The Celtics basically lost a starter for the season with little hope of replacing him with anything close to equal talent.  It's the same for any other team...lose a key player for the season and you're screwed. 

It's not like the NFL where you can bring in a no name replacement and through scheme cover up the weakness.

you mean aging teams like Dallas tend to now win?? the eventual nba champion??

to be honest, if Marquis can stay healthy and we can sign someone like Deshawn stevenson I think we will be fine at the wings.

we've still got a solid bench with Dooling,Moore, quise, bass, wilcox, johnson

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2011, 01:43:51 PM »

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Typical Celtics fans overreacting. At least give Jeff Green your best wishes before giving up. The 2012 season hasn't started yet for it be over.
Not overreacting.  Just relaying an NBA fact of life.  Talent wins, aging teams tend not to.

The Celtics basically lost a starter for the season with little hope of replacing him with anything close to equal talent.  It's the same for any other team...lose a key player for the season and you're screwed.  

It's not like the NFL where you can bring in a no name replacement and through scheme cover up the weakness.
Jeff Green is not a starter, and he's not really much better than a healthy Marquis Daniels.

Re: Season over before it began
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2011, 01:49:50 PM »

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I personally have never felt like Green was going to make OR break us. So therefore, I never thought the season hinged on Green. Sure, it would have been nice to have him but I wouldn't have been too upset if we let him go either. I don't think the Big 3 and crew are just going to roll over and let teams whip up on us, we have way too much pride on this team. We may not challenge for a title, but we may not have challenged for a title anyway. I do think I want to see how this plays out. I do think surprising things are going to happen and I don't count us out. I do think we've got a shot. Just things have to play out right. We have to wait and see how this goes. We'll stand up and fight for it I'm sure.
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