Which 11 players will be in Doc's rotation?

[birdwatcher]

If he really does this, I'd say individual match ups will determine playing time, along with how well the defensive concepts are being grasped in practice by the new guys. He will always be able to lean on Marquis at 3 different positions if he feels the new guys are behind on picking up the schemes on D. I think his versatility and his exp with the team will give him more minutes then some may expect. Bradley will get some looks, but I just don't see him playing unless he's improved his ball handling and court vision, unless they simply move him to the 2. I would assume that the D-league C (forgot his name LOL) and Pavlovic will get some garbage minutes. But really, when we play teams like Miami, I totally see Sasha getting more minutes because he's a strong defender and has 6 fouls to give on Lebron or DWade. When we play a team with an athletic 4 or 5, We'll see all our bigs including JaJuan get a shot at guarding them, so it really depends on the nightly matchup, IMO.

Plus, we got to keep the big 3 in the very low 30's, MPG wise.

[Moreover]

I'm going to predict that Daniels will see some minutes at backup point guard and may get more time in that spot than Dooling.


To start out.

The five starters.  Green as the primary backup at SF and perhaps joining Rondo and the Big Three in a smallball lineup.  Either Dooling/Daniels with an occasional cameo by Pavlovic or Daniels/Pavlovic with an occasional cameo by Dooling at the guards and Wilcox/Bass with minutes for Johnson when someone is in foul trouble at the big positions.  Bradley and Moore on the outside looking in, but with a chance to take minutes from Dooling, Daniels, or Pavlovic if one of those guys can't handle it or get injured or Bradley/Moore outright win playing time through practice.  I think Bradley has a shot at being inserted in end-of-quarter possessions on defense.  With teams temporarily allowed to dress 13 players to start the season, Bradley should get that spot over Moore.

Ideally, Bradley or Moore steps up and Dooling gets flipped to a team that needs a point guard for a trade asset, maybe a draft pick to clear a spot for a potential waiver casualty.

Daniels at the 1? Are we talking about the same guy? Marquise is a swingman, typically a 3 but will get most of his minutes at the 2

Good enough of a ball-handler to play as a backup PG. Did it for Dallas.

I think Doc may play some Dooling/Daniels backcourts and I wouldn't be surprised if Daniels is the one initiating the offense more often than not.

[Brendan]

(I'm assuming health and guessing Doc's plan.)

Rotation will probably be more like 9.5 men.

The four bigs will get real PT, with one of them probably getting more like 10 minutes, and the other three averaging under 30.

Pierce and Ray will start and play low 30s. Green will be first wing of the bench and get around 20 minutes.

Rondo will start and play high 30s and Dooling will get the back up PG minutes (about 10).

Questions:

1. Will Doc expand Green's minutes by using him with Pierce at SG when Allen is out?

2. Can Dooling play in the backcourt next to Rondo - or will he be exclusively a backup to Rondo?

That leaves about 15 SG minutes left - I hope they expand Green's role and mostly give those minutes to Pierce. Based on past history I'd guess Doc goes with a 10 man rotation and gives more to Daniels. I really hope Green sees 90%+ of his minutes at SF.

[Who]

The four bigs will get real PT, with one of them probably getting more like 10 minutes, and the other three averaging under 30.

I am thinking they give Garnett 31-34 minutes a night.

With the minutes fairly evenly split the other three - Jermaine O'Neal 24mpg. Bass 20-25 minutes. Wilcox at about 18-24 minutes.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Whoever the final 15 are, I'd like to see them all get some run. If I had to narrow it to 11, I'd say the starting five (including JO) plus Bass, Wilcox, Green, Dooling, Quis and Pavlovic. I really want to see Trey J get some good playing time, but I feel it's crucial to utilize our wing depth while we have it, which means using Green, Quis and Pavlovic to give Ray and Paul some good breaks.

[Jon]

(I'm assuming health and guessing Doc's plan.)

Rotation will probably be more like 9.5 men.

The four bigs will get real PT, with one of them probably getting more like 10 minutes, and the other three averaging under 30.

Pierce and Ray will start and play low 30s. Green will be first wing of the bench and get around 20 minutes.

Rondo will start and play high 30s and Dooling will get the back up PG minutes (about 10).

Questions:

1. Will Doc expand Green's minutes by using him with Pierce at SG when Allen is out?

2. Can Dooling play in the backcourt next to Rondo - or will he be exclusively a backup to Rondo?

That leaves about 15 SG minutes left - I hope they expand Green's role and mostly give those minutes to Pierce. Based on past history I'd guess Doc goes with a 10 man rotation and gives more to Daniels. I really hope Green sees 90%+ of his minutes at SF.

1) I think the answer is yes if he best wants to utilize Green.  If he really wants Green to blow up, he's going to have to get him more minutes than at the 3 spot.  To be honest, if things go well, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get minutes at both the 4 and "at the 2" with Pierce really the one sliding down. 

2) I think Dooling can play with Rondo, but if we're already going to have Pierce sliding down to the 2 for a few minutes a game, I have trouble believing there's going to be much time for Dooling there.  And that's not even counting Marquis, who if healthy, could push Dooling out of the rotation altogether as he can play the backup 1 and 2 as well. 

[clawlin]

There are still a few third string bigs on the market who could be had for the Vet's minimum, because there is no way JO can play this compressed schedule and we need a backer for Wilcox in those scenarios.

Hamed Haddadi, Dan Gadzuric, Alexis Ajinca, Hilton Armstrong, Francisco Elson, DJ Mbenga.

I am unsure if any of these guys have been signed overseas for the season or are in some team's training camp.  None of them are particularly exciting, but we need a body and all of them can absorb a few minutes.

[LooseCannon]

Daniels at the 1? Are we talking about the same guy? Marquise is a swingman, typically a 3 but will get most of his minutes at the 2

Last season, Daniels did get some backup point guard minutes while Delonte West was injured.  The offense could also go through Daniels when he is at the 2 and someone like Avery Bradley is the nominal point guard or we could see a lineup where Daniels functions as more of a point forward.  I think the Celtics could put an interesting lineup on the floor such as Daniels, Allen, and Pierce with two out of Green, Wilcox and Garnett or even Daniels/Allen/Green/Wilcox/Garnett.

I'd love to see Doc be flexible and have his rotation vary based on matchups, but I suspect he will try to lean more on Daniels, Green, and Pavlovic at the beginning of the season just because he knows them better and Wilcox and Bass will get more PT because Doc thinks he should try to use them more at first because they have bigger contracts.

[Yogi]

Minutes played:
1.  Rajon Rondo
2.  Ray Allen
3.  Paul Pierce
4.  Kevin Garnett
5.  Jeff Green
6.  Jermaine O'Neal
7.  Chris Wilcox
8.  Barndon Bass
9.  Keyon Dooling
10. Avery Bradley
11. Marquis Daniels
12. Sasha Pavlovic

[chambers]

Bradley is set to be our primary back up shooting guard unless he gets usurped by Moore, Daniels or Pavlovic.

What makes you say that?
I'd say Doc will put all three of these guys ahead of Bradley for this spot.
Did he say anything about it?
Why would he suddenly change and give Bradley minutes at the two spot when he's never played it for us?
Bradley will be picking splinters for most of the season unless someone gets injured.
Moore already looks better(in my opinion) and he's bigger.

[mctyson]

Minutes played:
1.  Rajon Rondo
2.  Ray Allen
3.  Paul Pierce
4.  Kevin Garnett
5.  Jeff Green
6.  Jermaine O'Neal
7.  Chris Wilcox
8.  Barndon Bass
9.  Keyon Dooling
10. Avery Bradley
11. Marquis Daniels
12. Sasha Pavlovic

I can't predict early in the season, but by the end of the year there is no way JJJ is playing less minutes than Dooling, Bradely, Daniels, or Pav.

JJJ is going to have a significant role this year, something tells me.

[pearljammer10]

Minutes played:
1.  Rajon Rondo
2.  Ray Allen
3.  Paul Pierce
4.  Kevin Garnett
5.  Jeff Green
6.  Jermaine O'Neal
7.  Chris Wilcox
8.  Barndon Bass
9.  Keyon Dooling
10. Avery Bradley
11. Marquis Daniels
12. Sasha Pavlovic

Id tweak this just a tad. I think Bass will get more minutes than Wilcox, and Daniels will definitely get more minutes than Bradley. Id also like to see Jajuan in the final 12 over Sasha even though that takes away our range a little bit...Man, where is our three point shooting.

[BballTim]

Minutes played:
1.  Rajon Rondo
2.  Ray Allen
3.  Paul Pierce
4.  Kevin Garnett
5.  Jeff Green
6.  Jermaine O'Neal
7.  Chris Wilcox
8.  Barndon Bass
9.  Keyon Dooling
10. Avery Bradley
11. Marquis Daniels
12. Sasha Pavlovic

  I think it will be something like

 Rondo
 Ray
 Paul
 KG/Bass/Green
 JO/Dooling
 Wilcox/Marqis
 Bradley/JJ
 Pavlovic/Moore

[csfansince60s]

Bradley is set to be our primary back up shooting guard unless he gets usurped by Moore, Daniels or Pavlovic.

What makes you say that?
I'd say Doc will put all three of these guys ahead of Bradley for this spot.
Did he say anything about it?
Why would he suddenly change and give Bradley minutes at the two spot when he's never played it for us?
Bradley will be picking splinters for most of the season unless someone gets injured.
Moore already looks better(in my opinion) and he's bigger.

I think that both of you guys are right here.

On Training Camp Live, a two+ hour coverage special by Comcast last Friday night, Doc said that he envisions AB aa a 2 guard and that his D was already NBA quality.

That being said, I don't recall him committing to AB as being a part of the regular rotation. However, something he did say seemed to imply an urgency on his (the organization's) part to see what they have in AB. Almost like a "step up or step out" type of thing, and if that's the case, I think that Doc will give him every chance tro prove himself.

Whether that translates into to palying time right away or a work your way in through practice philosophy, I don't know.

I do think that while Marquis/Keyon/Moore? can take the ball up if he is paired with them and play the 1 on O, then AB can harrass the opposing pg and play the 1 on D.

I think those pairings have the potential to work pretty well.