C's used mini-MLE on Wilcox

[snively]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

When healthy, Przybilla is a monster rebounder and shot-blocker. Anchored some really good Portland teams. 

I like Wilcox, but he offers very little defensively at a position where defense reigns supreme.  Still a great fit with this team though (we need bigs who can run the floor like gazelles and finish around the rim: Wilcox is great at this).

[Moreover]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

In the universe where basketball is about more than scoring.

There is no universe where Pryzbilla is better than Wilcox. Wilcox had a PER of 18 last year and Pryzbilla was a whopping 6. Pryzbilla averaged 2 points and 4 boards last year in 14 minutes. Wilcox averaged 7 points 5 boards in 17. I could also make the argument that Wilcox is more reliable at this point but I think the numbers are more than enough.

In the last 2 seasons, Wilcox was often out of the rotation of a putrid Pistons team.

The per-36 numbers in that situation are very irrelevant.

Joel Przybilla is a top tier defender, Wilcox is a horrible one.

[GreenEnvy]

While not exactly thrilled with losing the MMLE we all thought we still had, I'm starting to buy into Wilcox potentially being an effective center - and possibly a very good backup.

If he needs to start with The Big Three and Rondo, I think he can give us nearly what Perk did. If he gets to bang with other backup  centers (how many are actually good?), we may have the advantage.

I'll trust DA on this one, but we should all know within the next month whether this was a good move.

[hwangjini_1]

a key reason for the celtics' ouster in the playoffs has been their inability to score down low. it was not a question of defense.

wilcox and bass may be able to help the celtics with scoring from the front line.

wilcox was a good pick up and i think most of us will be happy with him as the back up center.

[bruinsandceltics]

In the last 2 seasons, Wilcox was often out of the rotation of a putrid Pistons team.

The per-36 numbers in that situation are very irrelevant.

Joel Przybilla is a top tier defender, Wilcox is a horrible one.

Why are we just ignoring Pryzbilla's inability to crack the Bobcats rotation?

Also his constant knee trouble?

Wilcox is a much better player than Pryzbilla. Defensive struggles or not.

[Cman]

#Celtics signed Chris Wilcox using the full mid-level. That means the C's have nothing but vet minimum contracts to offer.

https://twitter.com/#!/SherrodbCSN

Danny Ainge confirms Celtics used mid level exception on Chris Wilcox.

https://twitter.com/#!/scott_souza

That explains why we don't hear about Delonte or other "high-priced" centers anymore...

Ah, that makes more sense. I was shocked when it was reported it was the vet min.

Any info on number of years?
[Edit: According to Forsberg, its a one year deal: http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4687006/ainge-likes-roster-given-resources]

And why complain about the "price"? This is going rate for a serviceable big man.  Look at what some of the other FA not-so-big men are getting (e.g.: BbD).

[Master Po]

didn't realize I was wrong about the cap space with Shaq and Sheed....but it gave someone one more opportunity to bash me...nice

[bruinsandceltics]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

When healthy, Przybilla is a monster rebounder and shot-blocker. Anchored some really good Portland teams. 

I like Wilcox, but he offers very little defensively at a position where defense reigns supreme.  Still a great fit with this team though (we need bigs who can run the floor like gazelles and finish around the rim: Wilcox is great at this).

That is the problem. Pryzbilla is 32 and his best days are clearly past.

Sorry, this isn't 2004.

[dmny5000]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

When healthy, Przybilla is a monster rebounder and shot-blocker. Anchored some really good Portland teams. 

I like Wilcox, but he offers very little defensively at a position where defense reigns supreme.  Still a great fit with this team though (we need bigs who can run the floor like gazelles and finish around the rim: Wilcox is great at this).

I get that you said when healthy but I'm not sure Pryzbilla is what he used to be. Rebounds per 48 minutes for both Pryzbilla and Wilcox were both 13.1 last year.

He's a better shot blocker and defender but honestly I think the team needs scoring more than defense off the bench at this point. Like you said he runs the floor and that's going to be good for this team.

[vinnie]

Why did Wilcox only play 57 games last season for Detroit and 34 the year before?

[Who]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

When healthy, Przybilla is a monster rebounder and shot-blocker. Anchored some really good Portland teams. 

I like Wilcox, but he offers very little defensively at a position where defense reigns supreme.  Still a great fit with this team though (we need bigs who can run the floor like gazelles and finish around the rim: Wilcox is great at this).

That is the problem. Pryzbilla is 32 and his best days are clearly past.

Sorry, this isn't 2004.

Yeah, Przybilla was atrocious last year. An absolute liability.

That last injury really took a lot out of him. Who knows where his health is at now. Maybe, he's doing much better. Maybe, he's exactly the same. A big unknown.

[Who]

Why did Wilcox only play 57 games last season for Detroit and 34 the year before?

Defense -- he doesn't play any

So other players were preferred by the coaching staff over him.

[dmny5000]

Wait, people are actually upset with this? That is too funny. One of the better bigs available takes only $3 million to sign with year....yet we complain.

Boy I wish we still had that $3 million to sign Reggie Evans or Joel Pryzbilla.

Seriously...now people are just looking for things to whine about.

I'd have preferred Przyzbilla over Wilcox and it's not even close.

Wilcox one of the best bigs available? He wasn't even able to break the Pistons' rotation.

Sad News

Rasheed still getting $6,790,000 from Celtics (taking up cap space... bad move by Danny IMO...somewhat overpaid

Shaq still getting $1,399,507 (taking up cap space) and

JO getting $6,226,000 (he better come thru or another bad use of $$$ by DA....

Sheed and Shaq aren't being paid or taking cap space.

In what universe is Pryzbilla a better big than Chris Wilcox? Pryzbilla couldn't score if you left him open under the rim.

In the universe where basketball is about more than scoring.

There is no universe where Pryzbilla is better than Wilcox. Wilcox had a PER of 18 last year and Pryzbilla was a whopping 6. Pryzbilla averaged 2 points and 4 boards last year in 14 minutes. Wilcox averaged 7 points 5 boards in 17. I could also make the argument that Wilcox is more reliable at this point but I think the numbers are more than enough.

In the last 2 seasons, Wilcox was often out of the rotation of a putrid Pistons team.

The per-36 numbers in that situation are very irrelevant.

Joel Przybilla is a top tier defender, Wilcox is a horrible one.

Even just looking at the numbers from similar minutes last season Wilcox has a clear advantage. 7 and 5 vs 2 and 4 in just 3 more minutes per game.

Like I said in a previous response low post scoring is more important than low post defense off the bench for this team. Not to mention Wilcox is 3 years younger and Pryzbilla has been on the decline.

[csfansince60s]

In the last 2 seasons, Wilcox was often out of the rotation of a putrid Pistons team.

The per-36 numbers in that situation are very irrelevant.

Joel Przybilla is a top tier defender, Wilcox is a horrible one.

Why are we just ignoring Pryzbilla's inability to crack the Bobcats rotation?

Also his constant knee trouble?

Wilcox is a much better player than Pryzbilla. Defensive struggles or not.

Both healthy, it's no contest, I take Pryzbilla.

However, one stat says it all: Pryzbilla has played 30 and 36 games the last two seasons.

At least Willcox can still walk (run like a deer).

[vinnie]

Why did Wilcox only play 57 games last season for Detroit and 34 the year before?

Defense -- he doesn't play any

So other players were preferred by the coaching staff over him.

So he doesn't play defense yet he is supposed to be a solid backup 4 or 5? I am really getting confused. I want to like this guy, I really do!