Dallas trying to move Fernandez and Brewer

[Chris]

Like i said in the Pietrus thread I think we are pretty much all set at the 2/3 position. If we are going to make a trade or anything I would hope t would be for a serviceable big man.

Yeah, I agree.  Unless we are getting a major impact player, I think we should roll with what we have on the perimeter for the moment, and concentrate on finding another big man. 

[JBcat]

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We do but I don't believe that we can combine them, and if we can they are still not enough.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/tradeexceptions.jsp

We used the Daniels trade exemption in the Dooling trade but I believe we gained a similar size trade excemption back in the Bass trade. 

[Moranis]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

[Chris]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

Yup.  If Howard goes to any place other than NJ, expect them to go hard after Williams in the summer.

[henr1k]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

Doesn't make sense. They can move them next summer just like NY moved Turiaf.

[Mencius]

I just looked it up and we have two trade exceptions from Semih and Gody both at about 400k each. Which are essentially worthless.

Evantime, if I may ask, which site has info about whether a team has trade exceptions or not?

Shamsports.com

Thanks, good to know.

[Moranis]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

Doesn't make sense. They can move them next summer just like NY moved Turiaf.

Yeah, but they won't get value for them next summer.  By trading them now, they might be able to get a 1st or something that has future value.  Or maybe they can package them together and get an upgrade for this year.  Something like Ray Allen (not Ray as I don't think the Celtics make that trade, but something like that).

[Fafnir]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

Doesn't make sense. They can move them next summer just like NY moved Turiaf.

Better to try and move them now and make sure you have the cap space.

[Cman]

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We do but I don't believe that we can combine them, and if we can they are still not enough.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/tradeexceptions.jsp

We used the Daniels trade exemption in the Dooling trade but I believe we gained a similar size trade excemption back in the Bass trade. 

That's my understanding as well.

[perks-a-beast]

Rudy Fernandez is the exact type of player the C's should want backing up an aging Ray Allen. He's an excellent 3 point shooter, something the Celtics don't really have in their backcourt at the moment. Marquis is a smart player but doesnt have the speed or shooting ability of Fernandez. Avery Bradley hasn't shown any signs of being a shooting threat. Keyon Dooling is sub par. At the very least, Rudy can be an Eddie House type of guy for this team.
We still have the Mini-MLE so couldnt we just trade Dallas, say, a second round pick for Rudy and just take on his salary which is about just 2/3 of the Mini-MLE and still have room to sign another player 1/3?

[barefacedmonk]

He's an excellent 3 point shooter, something the Celtics don't really have in their backcourt at the moment.

He shot 32% last year...I wouldn't call that excellent.

[perks-a-beast]

He's an excellent 3 point shooter, something the Celtics don't really have in their backcourt at the moment.

He shot 32% last year...I wouldn't call that excellent.

He shot 40% from three in the olympics and his rookie year in the NBA. His shooting dropped when he got traded to Dallas because they never really utilized him in their system and he got less shots up. I think he's a very good shooter if utilized correctly as a scorer at the 1/2 position and he's also a threat going to the basket because he's crazy athletic.

Worst Case: Von Wafer

Best case: Mikael Pietrus

[barefacedmonk]

He's an excellent 3 point shooter, something the Celtics don't really have in their backcourt at the moment.

He shot 32% last year...I wouldn't call that excellent.

He shot 40% from three in the olympics and his rookie year in the NBA. His shooting dropped when he got traded to Dallas because they never really utilized him in their system and he got less shots up. I think he's a very good shooter if utilized correctly as a scorer at the 1/2 position and he's also a threat going to the basket because he's crazy athletic.

Worst Case: Von Wafer

Best case: Mikael Pietrus

When did he play for Dallas?

His 3 point shooting percentage has dropped every year.

[Fan from VT]

Can someone explain why is Dallas trying to clear cap space. Even if they get rid of Fernandez and Brewer, they will have 56.1M committed with only 7 players on their roster. Not counting Cardinal, Mahinmi and Carter. It's not enough for them to have MLE.

They want the cap space next summer to make a run at a top tier free agent to pair with Dirk.  It is why they let Chandler, Butler, and Barea all go as all wanted more then 1 year.

oesn't make sense. They can move them next summer just like NY moved Turiaf.

Yeah, but they won't get value for them next summer.  By trading them now, they might be able to get a 1st or something that has future value.  Or maybe they can package them together and get an upgrade for this year.  Something like Ray Allen (not Ray as I don't think the Celtics make that trade, but something like that).

On twitter hollinger was musing that trading those two for capapace would get dallas below the lux tax and thus return them the full mle insteas of mini mle

[Fan from VT]

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We do but I don't believe that we can combine them, and if we can they are still not enough.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/tradeexceptions.jsp

We used the Daniels trade exemption in the Dooling trade but I believe we gained a similar size trade excemption back in the Bass trade. 

That's my understanding as well.

Orlando was over the cap though so i dont think we couldnget an exception from that trade. Espn trade machine still has us having daniels trade exceprion though. Id do that fir fernandez