Why would Danny sign Jeff Green?

[winsomme]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

[crownsy]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

again, from JG point of view:

1 year at 9 million and unrestricted FA in 2012 > 3 years at 5 million

in the first scenario you get a ton of bank now and get a long term deal next year in the prime of your career if you play well.

in the second you make a little more cash but don't get to free agency for three years.

[Who]

I thought Jeff Green made a mistake taking that one year deal.

I liked his chances of getting a $35-40 million five year deal from someone.

[pearljammer10]

Who else would we have been able to get at his caliber? Since he was on the team we could give him money to sign here... If we let him walk, we wouldnt have been able to replace his talent with another free agent because we wouldnt have had enough money.

[Fan from VT]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

again, from JG point of view:

1 year at 9 million and unrestricted FA in 2012 > 3 years at 5 million

in the first scenario you get a ton of bank now and get a long term deal next year in the prime of your career if you play well.

in the second you make a little more cash but don't get to free agency for three years.

Plus as an RFA he's less likely to get as many offers than as a UFA next year.

[BballTim]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

  He's getting more for one year than he'd likely have gotten per year in a longer deal. He can still sign a long term deal next year when he's unrestricted.

[Bankshot]

Who else would we have been able to get at his caliber? Since he was on the team we could give him money to sign here... If we let him walk, we wouldnt have been able to replace his talent with another free agent because we wouldnt have had enough money.

Totally agree.

[winsomme]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

  He's getting more for one year than he'd likely have gotten per year in a longer deal. He can still sign a long term deal next year when he's unrestricted.

right, so both sides wanted this deal. why not see how these other things work out and then finalize the one year deal for Green that both sides want?

It just seems that Danny thought the CP thing was going to end up getting resolved and may have jumped the gun on the Green deal which we agree both sides wanted...

[winsomme]

Who else would we have been able to get at his caliber? Since he was on the team we could give him money to sign here... If we let him walk, we wouldnt have been able to replace his talent with another free agent because we wouldnt have had enough money.

I'm not suggesting letting him walk or saying I don't want him on the team. I just think there is a lot of movement here with some pretty big names and by signing Green now we have taken him off the table as a trade chip.

[winsomme]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

again, from JG point of view:

1 year at 9 million and unrestricted FA in 2012 > 3 years at 5 million

in the first scenario you get a ton of bank now and get a long term deal next year in the prime of your career if you play well.

in the second you make a little more cash but don't get to free agency for three years.

Plus as an RFA he's less likely to get as many offers than as a UFA next year.

I agree with all of this. so then you have a situation where both sides want the same thing. why not let this FA play out a little more and then move on the deal so you don't lose Green as a trade chip if something moves the Cs way with all these big names...

[Moreover]

Why would Danny sign Jeff Green thus making him unusable in trades?

I'm not looking for JG to be shipped out of town, but it doesn't seem to make sense to limit our options at this point.

  Maybe someone might have offered him a multi-year deal and we'd have lost him for nothing.

well we could match an offer...and if that was really in the cards why did JG sign..

  Yes, we could match the offer, but I don't think that he wanted to go with a big, long term contract with Green.

So then why did Jeff Green sign the one year deal?

  He's getting more for one year than he'd likely have gotten per year in a longer deal. He can still sign a long term deal next year when he's unrestricted.

right, so both sides wanted this deal. why not see how these other things work out and then finalize the one year deal for Green that both sides want?

It just seems that Danny thought the CP thing was going to end up getting resolved and may have jumped the gun on the Green deal which we agree both sides wanted...

The longer Green waited, the less options for him would exist. The market dries up.  

What if the deal Ainge ends up proposing is worse?

[CeltsAcumen]

As a player I believe Jeff Green is extremely overrated.  He is a below average shooter who shoots WAY too much.  He supposedly has the skill and athleticism to really D someone up but has no heart to be a lock down defender.  He looks dazed and lost out on the floor and shows no desire to win at all.  

I would not sign him to a long term deal, the Celtics would of regretted that move big time.  Jeff Green will be an average player at best who will end up a 7th or 8th man eventually.

Frankly the guy just looks lost and un-coachable (not because he is a jerk but bc he looks non-responsive sometimes, like he is in a walking coma).

The one year deal I guess is fine, but Jeff Green wont help the Celtics at all, he will disappear as 2011 season and the Celtics could spend 9 million on someone who can help them.

[the_Bird]

Who else would we have been able to get at his caliber? Since he was on the team we could give him money to sign here... If we let him walk, we wouldnt have been able to replace his talent with another free agent because we wouldnt have had enough money.

I'm not suggesting letting him walk or saying I don't want him on the team. I just think there is a lot of movement here with some pretty big names and by signing Green now we have taken him off the table as a trade chip.

He's not a trade chip today, true.

He's our single best trade chip at the deadline, though.  Sizable expiring contract for a (decent) player who can be re-signed or let to walk free.  If there's a deal to be made mid-season, it's going to involve Jeff Green.

[winsomme]

As a player I believe Jeff Green is extremely overrated.  He is a below average shooter who shoots WAY too much.  He supposedly has the skill and athleticism to really D someone up but has no heart to be a lock down defender.  He looks dazed and lost out on the floor and shows no desire to win at all.  

I would not sign him to a long term deal, the Celtics would of regretted that move big time.  Jeff Green will be an average player at best who will end up a 7th or 8th man eventually.

Frankly the guy just looks lost and un-coachable (not because he is a jerk but bc he looks non-responsive sometimes, like he is in a walking coma).

The one year deal I guess is fine, but Jeff Green wont help the Celtics at all, he will disappear as 2011 season and the Celtics could spend 9 million on someone who can help them.

I'm not sure I agree with your assessments but even more reason to keep him available as a trade chip.

[winsomme]

Who else would we have been able to get at his caliber? Since he was on the team we could give him money to sign here... If we let him walk, we wouldnt have been able to replace his talent with another free agent because we wouldnt have had enough money.

I'm not suggesting letting him walk or saying I don't want him on the team. I just think there is a lot of movement here with some pretty big names and by signing Green now we have taken him off the table as a trade chip.

He's not a trade chip today, true.

He's our single best trade chip at the deadline, though.  Sizable expiring contract for a (decent) player who can be re-signed or let to walk free.  If there's a deal to be made mid-season, it's going to involve Jeff Green.

yeah but someone trading for Green is going to want him locked up not be expiring. Are teams going to trade for Green near the end of the season, give up a presumably talented player, and then watch him walk in FA?