I think the hornets were severely undervaluing Rondo

[tyrone biggums]

Rondo still has a crap ton of value, to be honest the hornet's GM is just retarded

DA must be retarded too. Danny was practically giving Rondo (and half the team away) for another top 5 PG.

And the Hornet's GM was too dumb to take the deal. Hmmmmmmmm!


DH

Chris Paul is a better point guard than Rondo, can we just stop these statements? This shouldn't even be a debate. 

[BASS_THUMPER]

wow..

i see why the players want more money


basically they are jus meat being shipped around and then u run them in to the ground...butcher...then grind them up and make hot dogs when u got all the real meat out of them...


this game is not fun any more..


players should have never agreed to be lead out to pasture to feed then slaughtered

[dtrader]

He was undervaluing Rondo... No doubt about it.  Seems like most fans love to overvalue Rondo and most GM's and NBA front offices love to undervalue Rondo.

  So this means that Gordon and Curry are both more valuable than CP3?

No clue where you got that from BballTim.  Obviously they are worse.  CP3 is a top 5-7 player in the league.

  Seems like if NO not wanting to trade for Rondo means he's overvalued, then the fact that GS and LA wouldn't trade players that, let's face it, aren't exactly franchise players, for CP3 would mean that he's pretty overvalued as well.

No, because the reason those players werent offered for CP wasnt because they were seen as better, but because CP wouldnt commit to sign an extension.  So those players were each seen as more valuable than 4 months of CP3.  Rondo was offered WITH what we consider to be a desirable contract, and still drew no interest.

[CoachBo]

Ah, I suspect that Demps just sees what objective NBA fans see in Rondo - a petulant, shooting-challenged player whose effort isn't consistent enough on either end of the floor. Star potential, but the reality is the game isn't developing.

[BballTim]

He was undervaluing Rondo... No doubt about it.  Seems like most fans love to overvalue Rondo and most GM's and NBA front offices love to undervalue Rondo.

  So this means that Gordon and Curry are both more valuable than CP3?

No clue where you got that from BballTim.  Obviously they are worse.  CP3 is a top 5-7 player in the league.

  Seems like if NO not wanting to trade for Rondo means he's overvalued, then the fact that GS and LA wouldn't trade players that, let's face it, aren't exactly franchise players, for CP3 would mean that he's pretty overvalued as well.

No, because the reason those players werent offered for CP wasnt because they were seen as better, but because CP wouldnt commit to sign an extension.  So those players were each seen as more valuable than 4 months of CP3.  Rondo was offered WITH what we consider to be a desirable contract, and still drew no interest.

 No, CP3 was definitely pointing to the Clips as a team that he'd sign an extension with.

[dtrader]

He was undervaluing Rondo... No doubt about it.  Seems like most fans love to overvalue Rondo and most GM's and NBA front offices love to undervalue Rondo.

  So this means that Gordon and Curry are both more valuable than CP3?

No clue where you got that from BballTim.  Obviously they are worse.  CP3 is a top 5-7 player in the league.

  Seems like if NO not wanting to trade for Rondo means he's overvalued, then the fact that GS and LA wouldn't trade players that, let's face it, aren't exactly franchise players, for CP3 would mean that he's pretty overvalued as well.

No, because the reason those players werent offered for CP wasnt because they were seen as better, but because CP wouldnt commit to sign an extension.  So those players were each seen as more valuable than 4 months of CP3.  Rondo was offered WITH what we consider to be a desirable contract, and still drew no interest.

 No, CP3 was definitely pointing to the Clips as a team that he'd sign an extension with.

I didnt see that, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading specifically that the reason Curry got pulled was CP3s reluctance to commit.  Either way, those players werent held out because they were perceived as better that CP3.

[BballTim]

Ah, I suspect that Demps just sees what objective NBA fans see in Rondo - a petulant, shooting-challenged player whose effort isn't consistent enough on either end of the floor. Star potential, but the reality is the game isn't developing.

  The reality isn't that Rondo's game isn't developing, more that the development is in areas less measurable than free throw percentage. Some people can see it, some don't.

[BballTim]

He was undervaluing Rondo... No doubt about it.  Seems like most fans love to overvalue Rondo and most GM's and NBA front offices love to undervalue Rondo.

  So this means that Gordon and Curry are both more valuable than CP3?

No clue where you got that from BballTim.  Obviously they are worse.  CP3 is a top 5-7 player in the league.

  Seems like if NO not wanting to trade for Rondo means he's overvalued, then the fact that GS and LA wouldn't trade players that, let's face it, aren't exactly franchise players, for CP3 would mean that he's pretty overvalued as well.

No, because the reason those players werent offered for CP wasnt because they were seen as better, but because CP wouldnt commit to sign an extension.  So those players were each seen as more valuable than 4 months of CP3.  Rondo was offered WITH what we consider to be a desirable contract, and still drew no interest.

 No, CP3 was definitely pointing to the Clips as a team that he'd sign an extension with.

I didnt see that, but I'm pretty sure I remember reading specifically that the reason Curry got pulled was CP3s reluctance to commit.  Either way, those players werent held out because they were perceived as better that CP3.

  He was talking about the Clippers as a preferred destination from the beginning. If you weren't following the story close enough to have heard that you probably didn't follow it closely enough to know why players were or weren't acceptable in trades to the other teams.

[dtrader]

Ah, I suspect that Demps just sees what objective NBA fans see in Rondo - a petulant, shooting-challenged player whose effort isn't consistent enough on either end of the floor. Star potential, but the reality is the game isn't developing.

  The reality isn't that Rondo's game isn't developing, more that the development is in areas less measurable than free throw percentage. Some people can see it, some don't.

This is possible, but the point that I'm taking from the last week, is that the people who do see the development are the ones already wearing green.  People outside that circle dont see him so highly.

And from the items that pop up from a quick google search, it seems like CP DID say that he would not sign an extension with the clippers OR warriors.  So it really wasn't an issue of whose better with them as it was with Rondo.

[bruinsandceltics]

Ah, I suspect that Demps just sees what objective NBA fans see in Rondo - a petulant, shooting-challenged player whose effort isn't consistent enough on either end of the floor. Star potential, but the reality is the game isn't developing.

Well that just isn't true. His SHOOTING isn't developing, but his all around game is certainly developing.

[BballTim]

Ah, I suspect that Demps just sees what objective NBA fans see in Rondo - a petulant, shooting-challenged player whose effort isn't consistent enough on either end of the floor. Star potential, but the reality is the game isn't developing.

  The reality isn't that Rondo's game isn't developing, more that the development is in areas less measurable than free throw percentage. Some people can see it, some don't.

This is possible, but the point that I'm taking from the last week, is that the people who do see the development are the ones already wearing green.  People outside that circle dont see him so highly.

And from the items that pop up from a quick google search, it seems like CP DID say that he would not sign an extension with the clippers OR warriors.  So it really wasn't an issue of whose better with them as it was with Rondo.

  Sigh. He wasn't going to sign an extension with anyone because he'll get a lot more money with a new deal. Just like Deron Williams, who won't extend with the Nets but still plans to sign a new deal with them. He definitely said they were a preferred destination.

  And the people who vote for all-star games, all nba teams and all those basketball "experts" that did the nba player rankings? Are they all in that circle, wearing green?

  People who claim that only Boston fans appreciate Rondo are in serious denial.

[barefacedmonk]

People who claim that only Boston fans appreciate Rondo are in serious denial.

TP.

[SHAQATTACK]

Rondo is a crowd pleaser when he is on....his ball handling skills are second to none.

That said........he shoot freethrows about like Shaq...like he has never played ball

There is NO EXCUSE for Rondo to be a poor freethrow shooter, all he has to do is practice a million hours ...I think its mental more than anything. I could accept his poor ouside jumper if he could shoot 90% from the freethrow line.

[Cman]

Rondo is a crowd pleaser when he is on....his ball handling skills are second to none.

That said........he shoot freethrows about like Shaq...like he has never played ball

There is NO EXCUSE for Rondo to be a poor freethrow shooter, all he has to do is practice a million hours ...I think its mental more than anything. I could accept his poor ouside jumper if he could shoot 90% from the freethrow line.

Wait, are you saying that if he just "worked on it in the offseason" his FTs and jumpers would improve?

Cuz every offseason I read posts from ecstatic c-bloggers reporting that Rondo has been working on his shooting, and now he'll put it all together, be the complete package....

[LooseCannon]

Lots of people around here value Rondo the same as New Orleans does, in that they are skeptical about building a team about Rondo.

Rajon Rondo is a great talent, but he's not a max-level contract talent like Chris Paul.  Rondo has certain flaws that mean that some players are a bad fit next to him.  Perhaps you wouldn't be quick to pair Rondo with a ball-dominant scoring wing who isn't a good three-point shooter.  So, if you're starting with Rondo, you may have fewer options in building a team.  Plus, there are some good point guards who will be free agents in the next couple of years.

So, even accepting that Rondo is a great player who is worth more than he is being paid, I can see how a team isn't crazy or severely undervaluing him if it doesn't want to build a team around Rondo.