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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 07:28:06 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 07:52:03 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

I disagree. Rondo’s own admission last year was that he let the Perkins trade lower his production on the court. Rondo is a moody player who does not like to "play nicely with others”. He will be (and quite honestly should be) insulted by the fact that the C’s lied to his face telling him he wasn’t being discussed in this which clearly is not the case, and it will definitely affect his play. If this was a contract year where he knew he’d be an UFA in the offseason maybe he’d play out of his mind, but history shows he’ll likely sulk.

The only thing to do now is see if there is any chance we can find something of value for the guy. Trade him to the Thunder for Westbrook and Harden or something… I’d do that deal right now.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 08:06:15 PM »

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no.  im still hoping DA trades rondo prior to the season.  there's no way this will end well for the celtics if they hold onto rondo.

Yeah, there's no way Rondo could ever lead a team to the NBA Finals, or that he could ever come alive in the playoffs and carry an elderly injury prone team. Nope, that's never happened at all.

(Now you're going to respond with completely unsubstantiated mutterings about how you can't build around Rondo, even though there isn't a lot of evidence to back that up. Yeah, he's not a perfect player. Get over it, already. Championship contenders have been built around worse point guards.)

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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 08:08:58 PM »

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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 08:09:29 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

I disagree. Rondo’s own admission last year was that he let the Perkins trade lower his production on the court. Rondo is a moody player who does not like to "play nicely with others”. He will be (and quite honestly should be) insulted by the fact that the C’s lied to his face telling him he wasn’t being discussed in this which clearly is not the case, and it will definitely affect his play. If this was a contract year where he knew he’d be an UFA in the offseason maybe he’d play out of his mind, but history shows he’ll likely sulk.

The only thing to do now is see if there is any chance we can find something of value for the guy. Trade him to the Thunder for Westbrook and Harden or something… I’d do that deal right now.

Different situation.  That was a case of losing his Binkie and pouting.  This is just being in trade rumors that questioned his abilities.  He is too much of a competitor to respond by doing anything other than try to prove Danny wrong.

If he pouts and mails it in, it will juts prove Danny right, and he has too much pride to do that.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2011, 08:28:25 PM »

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no.  im still hoping DA trades rondo prior to the season.  there's no way this will end well for the celtics if they hold onto rondo.

Yeah, there's no waqky Rondo could ever lead a team to the NBA Finals, or that he could ever come alive in the playoffs and carry an elderly injury prone team. Nope, that's never happened at all.

(Now you're going to respond with completely unsubstantiated mutterings about how you can't build around Rondo, even though there isn't a lot of evidence to back that up. Yeah, he's not a perfect player. Get over it, already. Championship contenders have been built around worse point guards.)
wrong.. the kid cant make free throws  after 6 years in the league..

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 08:40:47 PM »

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Motivate him to what? Get the heck out of Boston quick, fast, and in a hurry??

Probably. Can't say I blame him.
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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 08:51:44 PM »

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Motivate him to what? Get the heck out of Boston quick, fast, and in a hurry??

Probably. Can't say I blame him.

Why?  Because they tried to trade him for a top 5 player? 

I really think this is being blown WAY out of proportion.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 10:22:02 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

I disagree. Rondo’s own admission last year was that he let the Perkins trade lower his production on the court. Rondo is a moody player who does not like to "play nicely with others”. He will be (and quite honestly should be) insulted by the fact that the C’s lied to his face telling him he wasn’t being discussed in this which clearly is not the case, and it will definitely affect his play. If this was a contract year where he knew he’d be an UFA in the offseason maybe he’d play out of his mind, but history shows he’ll likely sulk.

The only thing to do now is see if there is any chance we can find something of value for the guy. Trade him to the Thunder for Westbrook and Harden or something… I’d do that deal right now.

Different situation.  That was a case of losing his Binkie and pouting.  This is just being in trade rumors that questioned his abilities.  He is too much of a competitor to respond by doing anything other than try to prove Danny wrong.

If he pouts and mails it in, it will juts prove Danny right, and he has too much pride to do that.

  That was more a case of Rondo struggling with injuries than pouting because of the Perk trade.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 10:25:21 PM »

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Motivate him to what? Get the heck out of Boston quick, fast, and in a hurry??

Probably. Can't say I blame him.

Why?  Because they tried to trade him for a top 5 player? 

I really think this is being blown WAY out of proportion.

I'm gonna let this Bill Simmons quote answer that for me. He hits the nail on the head:
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As a Celtics fan, I'm horrified by how they are handling this — publicly, they're saying they aren't shopping Rondo, and privately they're dangling Rondo to New Orleans and EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. Seriously, what are the odds they can pull that trade off? 20-to-1? That's worth putting Rondo in a funk for the entire 2011-12 season? Remember, this is the same guy who went into a shooting tailspin after one harmless Obama joke.3 And by the way, didn't Rondo take less money to stay last season? That doesn't matter at all? Really, it's all business all the time? That's the best way to run a basketball team?

In general, it feels like the Celtics organization has lost touch with what made that team special — the chemistry between their best guys and their coach — starting with Ray Allen getting shopped for two straight trade deadlines, continuing with last February's brutally cold Perkins trade, then cresting with this Rondo debacle. Why would any Celtic feel safe at this point? How can Doc Rivers preach "ubuntu" with a straight face after the past two years? Does ubuntu mean, "Togetherness … unless we're trying to trade you?"

Hey Danny? If you really want to blow this up, then have the balls to actually do it — use your amnesty on Garnett (who's never making it through that inhumane 66-game schedule they released yesterday, much less nine weeks of playoff games with one day's rest between each game), try to sign Tyson Chandler, then try to trade Rondo, O'Neal's contract, two no. 1 picks and $3 million for Paul, and hope that Paul and Chandler say, "Cool, let's play in Boston together!" Sure, you'd be taking a mammoth Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. on Garnett — the guy who made basketball relevant in Boston again — but at this point, what's the difference? You Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. on Perkins last February and you're Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ting on Rondo now. Why not add KG to the list? Either way, the Celtics made their bed here: Chris Paul or no Chris Paul, they're probably going to have to trade Rondo this season just because they handled the entire year so poorly. If you were Rondo, would you want to remain with this franchise? I sure wouldn't.
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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2011, 10:27:13 PM »

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no.  im still hoping DA trades rondo prior to the season.  there's no way this will end well for the celtics if they hold onto rondo.

Yeah, there's no waqky Rondo could ever lead a team to the NBA Finals, or that he could ever come alive in the playoffs and carry an elderly injury prone team. Nope, that's never happened at all.

(Now you're going to respond with completely unsubstantiated mutterings about how you can't build around Rondo, even though there isn't a lot of evidence to back that up. Yeah, he's not a perfect player. Get over it, already. Championship contenders have been built around worse point guards.)
wrong.. the kid cant make free throws  after 6 years in the league..

  We should just make Ray Allen the pg, he's a crack ft shooter. That will practically guarantee a title.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2011, 10:34:08 PM »

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no.  im still hoping DA trades rondo prior to the season.  there's no way this will end well for the celtics if they hold onto rondo.

Yeah, there's no waqky Rondo could ever lead a team to the NBA Finals, or that he could ever come alive in the playoffs and carry an elderly injury prone team. Nope, that's never happened at all.

(Now you're going to respond with completely unsubstantiated mutterings about how you can't build around Rondo, even though there isn't a lot of evidence to back that up. Yeah, he's not a perfect player. Get over it, already. Championship contenders have been built around worse point guards.)
wrong.. the kid cant make free throws  after 6 years in the league..

  We should just make Ray Allen the pg, he's a crack ft shooter. That will practically guarantee a title.


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Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2011, 10:54:58 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

I disagree. Rondo’s own admission last year was that he let the Perkins trade lower his production on the court. Rondo is a moody player who does not like to "play nicely with others”. He will be (and quite honestly should be) insulted by the fact that the C’s lied to his face telling him he wasn’t being discussed in this which clearly is not the case, and it will definitely affect his play. If this was a contract year where he knew he’d be an UFA in the offseason maybe he’d play out of his mind, but history shows he’ll likely sulk.

The only thing to do now is see if there is any chance we can find something of value for the guy. Trade him to the Thunder for Westbrook and Harden or something… I’d do that deal right now.

Different situation.  That was a case of losing his Binkie and pouting.  This is just being in trade rumors that questioned his abilities.  He is too much of a competitor to respond by doing anything other than try to prove Danny wrong.

If he pouts and mails it in, it will juts prove Danny right, and he has too much pride to do that.

  That was more a case of Rondo struggling with injuries than pouting because of the Perk trade.


That’s just not the case completely. Yes Rondo had some injury issues, but he himself said that he didn’t play to his potential because of the trade. He was ticked off because the team did something he didn’t like and got rid of his buddy. That shows you he is willing to not give full effort (his own words) if he is unhappy. He has made it known that he is unhappy that he is being shopped. Put 2 and 2 together guys. He will be sulking.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 11:03:19 PM »

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This type of thing has always motivated Rondo.  Danny is going to have to be delicate, and explain the situation, and I think Rondo will absolutely take this as motivation to prove detractors wrong.

I disagree. Rondo’s own admission last year was that he let the Perkins trade lower his production on the court. Rondo is a moody player who does not like to "play nicely with others”. He will be (and quite honestly should be) insulted by the fact that the C’s lied to his face telling him he wasn’t being discussed in this which clearly is not the case, and it will definitely affect his play. If this was a contract year where he knew he’d be an UFA in the offseason maybe he’d play out of his mind, but history shows he’ll likely sulk.

The only thing to do now is see if there is any chance we can find something of value for the guy. Trade him to the Thunder for Westbrook and Harden or something… I’d do that deal right now.

Different situation.  That was a case of losing his Binkie and pouting.  This is just being in trade rumors that questioned his abilities.  He is too much of a competitor to respond by doing anything other than try to prove Danny wrong.

If he pouts and mails it in, it will juts prove Danny right, and he has too much pride to do that.

  That was more a case of Rondo struggling with injuries than pouting because of the Perk trade.


That’s just not the case completely. Yes Rondo had some injury issues, but he himself said that he didn’t play to his potential because of the trade. He was ticked off because the team did something he didn’t like and got rid of his buddy. That shows you he is willing to not give full effort (his own words) if he is unhappy. He has made it known that he is unhappy that he is being shopped. Put 2 and 2 together guys. He will be sulking.

  He said he wasn't willing to give full effort because the Celts traded Perk? Do you have a link for that?

  Sure, it bothered him some that they traded Perk. Just like it bothered the big three, who weren't exactly playing stellar ball at the time either. But the bulk of the issue with Rondo was injuries, not pouting.

Re: Any chance this motivates Rondo??
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2011, 11:13:57 PM »

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That shows you he is willing to not give full effort (his own words) if he is unhappy. He has made it known that he is unhappy that he is being shopped. Put 2 and 2 together guys. He will be sulking.

He looked pretty game playing with one arm.  A lot of guys would not have done that.