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Contenders?
« on: December 03, 2011, 12:40:56 PM »

Offline Celtics18

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Please name the teams that you think, as things stand right now, have a shot at competing for a title in the 2011-2012 season.

Here's mine:

East:

Boston
Miami
Chicago

I don't really see anyone else realistically having championship aspirations.  I guess the Magic are always somewhat dangerous with Howard and that Amare and 'Melo could really click in New York this season and make a run, but I don't take them too seriously.

West:

Dallas
LA Lakers (I probably didn't have to specify, but you never know)
San Antonio
Oklahoma City

I don't see Memphis really making a push to that next level, but I guess it's possible. Otherwise, I don't see any other championship contenders in the West as things currently stand.

Please share your thoughts on which teams you think have realistic shots at going for it all this year. 
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 12:49:11 PM »

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alot of people are going to say Boston doesnt have a shot, but depending on our offseason Moves and health going into the playoffs I think we will be in the thick of it. going down against Miami had as much/more to do with health than it had to do with age.


Re: Contenders?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 01:15:00 PM »

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Pretty much in full agreement with your list (swap San An for Memphis).

East -- Miami, Boston and Chicago
West -- Dallas, Oklahoma, Memphis and Los Angeles

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 01:16:25 PM »

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For the East it is to early to tell. Will Dwight move? Will CP3 move to the East? These players can turn good teams into contenders.

For the West, however, San Anonio, Lakers, OKC seem like locks. Dallas will be good but it depends on who they retain and who knows Memphis looks good too.

And for another bold prediction: The Kings will make the playoffs.

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 01:29:42 PM »

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i think the Spurs are done...time to rebuild for them imo

the Grizzlies will make the playoffs but I don't see them contending yet...

Dallas I don't think will repeat, Chandler is leaving, and maybe Barea? and the team is getting older like us

I see the Thunder coming out the West this coming year, Lakers behind them and Dallas and Grizzlies after

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2011, 01:34:57 PM »

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 East: Boston, Miami, Chicago, maybe New York.

 West: Oklahoma, Dallas, LA.

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Re: Contenders?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2011, 02:02:17 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.
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Re: Contenders?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 06:47:25 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.
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PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2011, 06:49:16 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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Re: Contenders?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2011, 06:52:50 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

Please, they're contenders anything can happen. Just because we don't have our "future hall of fame center" doesn't mean the Celtics are also rans now.

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 06:55:10 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

Is it our age? If so, I'm confused why both the Lakers and Mavs are contenders in your opinion out west.
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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 06:57:49 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

Is it our age? If so, I'm confused why both the Lakers and Mavs are contenders in your opinion out west.


age is one factor, but it's not the main reason.


the lakers and mavs both have a couple key things the celtics will not have this season and have not had for a couple seasons:

a true go-to scorer and a true inside presence.
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Re: Contenders?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 06:59:02 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
west: thunder, lakers, mavs


if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

 I'd say that's more of a chance than most would have given the Mavs last year. It's also much more of a chance than many here would have given us before 2009-2010, when we were "done as a contending team". When we were healthy last year we were easily dispatching the Heat during the season. When we were very unhealthy in the playoffs we were a missed layup from being tied 2-2 with the Heat.

Re: Contenders?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 07:05:21 PM »

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if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

 I'd say that's more of a chance than most would have given the Mavs last year. It's also much more of a chance than many here would have given us before 2009-2010, when we were "done as a contending team". When we were healthy last year we were easily dispatching the Heat during the season. When we were very unhealthy in the playoffs we were a missed layup from being tied 2-2 with the Heat.


you may be right about the mavs last year, but then dirk went and turned into the best player in the playoffs.  he was unstoppable.  who on the celtics is going to do that this year for 4 series?

many were writing off our team in 2009-2010 as well, it's true -- myself included, after the horrid regular season.  the team was certainly surprising in the playoffs, but let's remember that they fell short, and there haven't been any major improvements to the team since then.  in fact, the roster outlined at the start of this post is significantly less impressive than the 2010 team that made the finals.

last year, we did have a lot of success against the heat early in the regular season when they were still putting it together and we had a reasonably healthy shaq and / or perk.  later in the regular season when the roster more closely resembled the roster in the original post, the heat handed our butts to us.  in the playoffs, we hung with the heat fairly well prior to rondo's injury.  it is open to debate whether or not our team would have beaten the heat if rondo had not been injured, but i am of the opinion that though we very well may have taken them to 6 games and been very competitive, we would ultimately still have lost.
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Re: Contenders?
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 07:12:33 PM »

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east: heat, bulls
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if the nets somehow managed to sign Nene and trade Lopez / picks for Dwight (admittedly very unlikely), i might be tempted to include them as well, depending on what role players they signed for support.

the knicks could be a contending team if they signed the right supporting pieces, but i don't think they have the money to do so -- plus they wouldn't want to compromise their cap space for next summer.

i think memphis will have a bit of a let down this year after their surprising post-season run this summer.



Thunder v. Heat is my Finals matchup.

You really think the Heat and the Bulls are going to be so dominant that we won't even have a chance?  That's some real good negative thinking, there.

i think our team may be good enough to take either the Heat or the Bulls to 6 games, if our team is healthy.

 I'd say that's more of a chance than most would have given the Mavs last year. It's also much more of a chance than many here would have given us before 2009-2010, when we were "done as a contending team". When we were healthy last year we were easily dispatching the Heat during the season. When we were very unhealthy in the playoffs we were a missed layup from being tied 2-2 with the Heat.


you may be right about the mavs last year, but then dirk went and turned into the best player in the playoffs.  he was unstoppable.  who on the celtics is going to do that this year for 4 series?

many were writing off our team in 2009-2010 as well, it's true -- myself included, after the horrid regular season.  the team was certainly surprising in the playoffs, but let's remember that they fell short, and there haven't been any major improvements to the team since then.  in fact, the roster outlined at the start of this post is significantly less impressive than the 2010 team that made the finals.

last year, we did have a lot of success against the heat early in the regular season when they were still putting it together and we had a reasonably healthy shaq and / or perk.  later in the regular season when the roster more closely resembled the roster in the original post, the heat handed our butts to us.  in the playoffs, we hung with the heat fairly well prior to rondo's injury.  it is open to debate whether or not our team would have beaten the heat if rondo had not been injured, but i am of the opinion that though we very well may have taken them to 6 games and been very competitive, we would ultimately still have lost.

  People were writing off the Celts as contenders when they lost to the Magic without KG. They fell short of the title but clearly were contenders, just like they were last year. And we don't have to copy the Mavs to win the title. We nearly won the title in 2010 without a true go-to scorer.