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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2011, 02:31:57 PM »

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Yes, very excited, I think he'll be great for us. In fact, I can't wait for all the "I am sorry I doubted your b-ball skills, JG - I beg your forgiveness" threads  ;)

+1  ACF for the first sentence of your post.

Regarding the second part, don't hold your breath for any mea culpa posts. People here seem pretty entrenched in their positions which seem to correlate pretty highly, although obviously not 100%, to their original positions on the Perkins trade.

Last season, admittedly a frustrating one, this board was pretty evenly divided (almost to the point of bitterness) over the Perkins trade. (As an aside, I was pro-trade.) Many weren’t even giving Green a chance because of their stance on the trade.

Green is young (just turned 25) definitely has the athleticism and bball IQ (his Hoya coach called him the smartest bball player that he has ever been around!) and room to grow to become a significant piece of the Celtic future.

Last year he had many things stacked against him.

1. He was traded for Perkins (whose value many around here grossly overrated, especially in light of his injury history and his very high likelihood to bolt anyway at seasons end).

2. He wasn’t Kendrick Perkins.

3. He came from a system that was significantly different both offensively and especially defensively.

4. He had confidence in OKC mainly because he was a peer with the stars of the team,Westbrook and Durant, in terms of age and league experience. Here. each of the big three are significantly older and more accomplished than Green.

5. He wanted to please so much that he did think too much instead of just playing and deferred way too much to G, A and P when they were on the court and never got the ball when the black hole, BBD, got the ball.

6. The floor leader (RR) was pouting for a significant amount of time after the trade and is never very shy about how he feels. While nothing was reported on this, and it is purely speculation on my part, I believe that Green felt Rondo’s resentment about the trade of his BFF, Perkins, both on and off the court.

7. He was forced to play out of his natural 3 position because of our lack of depth at the 4/5 due to the injuries.

I very much hope we sign Green and he gets a chance to prove himself here and show us all his talent and versatility.

He never had the “deer in the headlights” issue that he had most of last year with us before. He was big-time clutch at Georgetown both during the regular season and in the NCAAs, a pretty big stage, and seemed very comfortable in OKC.

Confidence to be borne out of familiarity with the system and the other players here and acceptance is the key to his future. I hope it is here for him, at least this year.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2011, 02:43:31 PM »

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I think Jeff Green really needed a camp with us to improve and learn the offense and defense.   I see no reason to think he will improve in the shortened preseason.   It will likely be the same boat with him looking lost.   However, I think he might do better without Big Baby doing his Chuck Person imitation chucking up ill advised shots.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2011, 02:44:09 PM »

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For those thinking he will be back, and apparently will be something special, by some accounts, how much do you think he is going to be signed for and for how many years?

Because to me, this is really the most important part of this equation. His agent turned down an offer from the Thunder and rumors had it Green was looking for upwards of $10 million a year.

Does anyone really think that Green's agent is going to be looking for that much less for his client because of a tough 22 game stretch after a trade? Does anyone really believe Danny Ainge is going to invest $17 million on Pierce and another outrageous amount for what amount's to his back up?

I would love to hear what people think he is worth and will be signed for.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2011, 02:58:05 PM »

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For those thinking he will be back, and apparently will be something special, by some accounts, how much do you think he is going to be signed for and for how many years?

Because to me, this is really the most important part of this equation. His agent turned down an offer from the Thunder and rumors had it Green was looking for upwards of $10 million a year.

Does anyone really think that Green's agent is going to be looking for that much less for his client because of a tough 22 game stretch after a trade? Does anyone really believe Danny Ainge is going to invest $17 million on Pierce and another outrageous amount for what amount's to his back up?

I would love to hear what people think he is worth and will be signed for.

I think that he signs for the C's QO and proves his worth.

If he doesn't and someone offers him a big deal, we match and S&T Green to whoever has courted him.

I do believe that his stock dropped substantially because of his pedestrian performance here. He needs to re-establish his value before he can get anything remotely close to what his camp was expecting pre-Boston.

Again, if his market value is prohibitively high for us, obviously someone else thinks a lot of him and would part with assets to get him.

Win-win for us: get him for QO or S&T him for assets.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2011, 03:05:05 PM »

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only if we trade Ray for a center and start him at 3

Jeff's just not a power forward.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2011, 03:10:36 PM »

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This is his fifth year and he hasn't improved since his second season.  The excuses about his role are becoming old.  I think he is what he is- an inconsistent guy with athleticism and average skills.  I don't expect him to be any different this year.  He's an ok player.
Give me a break. He plays out of position behind superstar Kevin Durant, and then comes here in a disruptive mid-season trade and does the same thing minus Durant, because all of our Centers fell apart, never being involved in plays because there was no time to get up to speed, and with BBD as a black hole from which no basketball escapes?

Christmas on a cracker, at least wait until the excuses are actually "old" before calling them such. Like, let's see what he does when he plays his natural position and is actually involved in the system.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2011, 03:12:59 PM »

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I agree ACF can't wait to dig this up so half the people can eat crow down the line :P
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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2011, 04:01:43 PM »

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I was... Then I saw him play and the way he couldnt fill as a role player last year and my excitement is gone... Total trade bait for me.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2011, 04:06:16 PM »

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For those thinking he will be back, and apparently will be something special, by some accounts, how much do you think he is going to be signed for and for how many years?

Because to me, this is really the most important part of this equation. His agent turned down an offer from the Thunder and rumors had it Green was looking for upwards of $10 million a year.

Does anyone really think that Green's agent is going to be looking for that much less for his client because of a tough 22 game stretch after a trade? Does anyone really believe Danny Ainge is going to invest $17 million on Pierce and another outrageous amount for what amount's to his back up?

I would love to hear what people think he is worth and will be signed for.

Danny is saying all the right things but I think green is signed for his QO and then shipped out via trade this year or allowed to walk (maybe S +T) next year.


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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2011, 04:19:43 PM »

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I think he'll sign with the Celtics for the QO.  What is it, about $7 mil.?
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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 04:20:34 PM »

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I am excited to see him play this year as well.
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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2011, 04:25:38 PM »

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I think he'll sign with the Celtics for the QO.  What is it, about $7 mil.?

5.9 mill I believe


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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2011, 04:46:45 PM »

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I am, Dont think is going to have a breakout season or something but I am always excited about a farley new face. I think he and Rondo are our buliding blocks just interesting in which way we go from there.

Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2011, 04:59:19 PM »

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For those thinking he will be back, and apparently will be something special, by some accounts, how much do you think he is going to be signed for and for how many years?

Because to me, this is really the most important part of this equation. His agent turned down an offer from the Thunder and rumors had it Green was looking for upwards of $10 million a year.

Does anyone really think that Green's agent is going to be looking for that much less for his client because of a tough 22 game stretch after a trade? Does anyone really believe Danny Ainge is going to invest $17 million on Pierce and another outrageous amount for what amount's to his back up?

I would love to hear what people think he is worth and will be signed for.

i have a feeling that the market for Green prior to the lockout and the market for Green post-lockout, especially after a season and change playing for the Celtics in a supporting role, will prove to be very different.
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Re: Anybody excited about Jeff Green?
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2011, 05:04:04 PM »

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only if we trade Ray for a center and start him at 3

Jeff's just not a power forward.

And Pierce isnt a 2...