amnesty kg

[FatjohnReturns]

One possibility i havnt seen mentioned is using the amnesty clause on kgs salary for 11/12. Kg would still get paid but without his contract against the cap we could attempt to sign 2 impact players. Deandre jordan or maybe nene. It might allow us to make one more serious run at the title before kg and ray are done.  Thoughts?

[GreenFaith1819]

Is this possible?

I'd love this, as long as we kept KG.

IMO, no KG means no title.

If DeAndre or Nene could then be coaxed or persuaded to come here and play with Rondo, then that'd be even sweeter.

But keep KG.

[hpantazo]

One possibility i havnt seen mentioned is using the amnesty clause on kgs salary for 11/12. Kg would still get paid but without his contract against the cap we could attempt to sign 2 impact players. Deandre jordan or maybe nene. It might allow us to make one more serious run at the title before kg and ray are done.  Thoughts?

even if it's possible, we lose the cap space we have built up for this summer when a better class of FA's are available

[LooseCannon]

Thoughts?

I think you should do the math and figure out how much space under the cap the Celtics would have to sign free agents before you make this sort of proposal.

[FatjohnReturns]

One possibility i havnt seen mentioned is using the amnesty clause on kgs salary for 11/12. Kg would still get paid but without his contract against the cap we could attempt to sign 2 impact players. Deandre jordan or maybe nene. It might allow us to make one more serious run at the title before kg and ray are done.  Thoughts?

even if it's possible, we lose the cap space we have built up for this summer when a better class of FA's are available

  yeah but your trying to win this year with kg. What ive read about the amnesty clause is thhat it is feasible to resign with the same team (via vets min.) Then use avaible cap space to go after impact players with whats left under cap

[FatjohnReturns]

Thoughts?

I think you should do the math and figure out how much space under the cap the Celtics would have to sign free agents before you make this sort of proposal.

i think you should lighten up. I am typing on my phone.  I know he is making more than20 mil and under proposed amnesty rules it wouldnt count against the cap and kg would still get paid. Assuming wyc opens his wallet you could throw 10 mil a year at djordan resign jgreen and delonte and make one more serious run at the title with kg and.ray.

[Roy H.]

Here's the math.

The salary cap will be roughly $58 million.

Right now, our committed salary, if you count Jeff Green's qualifying offer, is $70,285,154.  If you subtract Green, it's still around $64 million.

If you subtract KG, that brings our salary to $49,038,110 (or around $43 million without Green).

To that, you have to add cap holds.  For every player below 12 on our roster, you add around $490k.  That's around $3 million additional (or $3.5 additional if we don't sign Green).

That means, best case scenario, we'd be around $52 million with Green, or $46.5 million without him.  Also, there's a cap charge for JuJuan Johnson, that adds another $400k or so ($900k, minus the cap hold amount).  So, let's say $52.4 million, or $46.9 million.

Also, to get that cap room, we'd have to renounce rights to all of our free agents, renounce the MLE, and renounce our trade exceptions.

After all that, we'd have roughly $5.6 million to spend on a free agent (if we keep Green on his qualifying offer), or $10.9 million (if we let Green go).

So, is that worth it?  To ship KG out of town, burning up a lot of good will with the players and the fan base, and ending our title chances?  And wasting $24 million of Wyc's dollars?  All of that for $5.6 million, or $10.9 million if we get rid of both KG and Green?

I say no.  Amnestying KG would be a counterproductive move.

[FatjohnReturns]

Huh who said anything about shipping him out. Why cant he resign via vets min and still get the cap space

[Bean_town fan]

a player who is cut via the amnesty rule cannot re-sign with the team that cut them for one full calendar year.....not happening, blasphemy to even consider it lol

[Chris]

Huh who said anything about shipping him out. Why cant he resign via vets min and still get the cap space

Anyone who is Amnestied cannot sign with that team through until the original end date of the contract.  So, if you Amnesty him, he is gone.

[FatjohnReturns]

Oh. I read somewhere it was 30 days. Original end date of contract is a different scenario

[pearljammer10]

Huh who said anything about shipping him out. Why cant he resign via vets min and still get the cap space

You really think after all the recent CBA negotiations the owners we be like... "Ok amnesty clause works and then you can resign those cut players for nothing..."

I mean, no way.

[Kiorrik]

Here's the math.

The salary cap will be roughly $58 million.

Right now, our committed salary, if you count Jeff Green's qualifying offer, is $70,285,154.  If you subtract Green, it's still around $64 million.

If you subtract KG, that brings our salary to $49,038,110 (or around $43 million without Green).

To that, you have to add cap holds.  For every player below 12 on our roster, you add around $490k.  That's around $3 million additional (or $3.5 additional if we don't sign Green).

That means, best case scenario, we'd be around $52 million with Green, or $46.5 million without him.  Also, there's a cap charge for JuJuan Johnson, that adds another $400k or so ($900k, minus the cap hold amount).  So, let's say $52.4 million, or $46.9 million.

Also, to get that cap room, we'd have to renounce rights to all of our free agents, renounce the MLE, and renounce our trade exceptions.

After all that, we'd have roughly $5.6 million to spend on a free agent (if we keep Green on his qualifying offer), or $10.9 million (if we let Green go).

So, is that worth it?  To ship KG out of town, burning up a lot of good will with the players and the fan base, and ending our title chances?  And wasting $24 million of Wyc's dollars?  All of that for $5.6 million, or $10.9 million if we get rid of both KG and Green?

I say no.  Amnestying KG would be a counterproductive move.

Boom. /topic.


.edit: which makes me a happy man because I purchased a KG jersey only 2 days ago

[Jon]

Here's the math.

The salary cap will be roughly $58 million.

Right now, our committed salary, if you count Jeff Green's qualifying offer, is $70,285,154.  If you subtract Green, it's still around $64 million.

If you subtract KG, that brings our salary to $49,038,110 (or around $43 million without Green).

To that, you have to add cap holds.  For every player below 12 on our roster, you add around $490k.  That's around $3 million additional (or $3.5 additional if we don't sign Green).

That means, best case scenario, we'd be around $52 million with Green, or $46.5 million without him.  Also, there's a cap charge for JuJuan Johnson, that adds another $400k or so ($900k, minus the cap hold amount).  So, let's say $52.4 million, or $46.9 million.

Also, to get that cap room, we'd have to renounce rights to all of our free agents, renounce the MLE, and renounce our trade exceptions.

After all that, we'd have roughly $5.6 million to spend on a free agent (if we keep Green on his qualifying offer), or $10.9 million (if we let Green go).

So, is that worth it?  To ship KG out of town, burning up a lot of good will with the players and the fan base, and ending our title chances?  And wasting $24 million of Wyc's dollars?  All of that for $5.6 million, or $10.9 million if we get rid of both KG and Green?

I say no.  Amnestying KG would be a counterproductive move.

Exactly.  Especially when the FA crop is better next year.  There's no need to jump the gun. 

[MBz]

Wouldn't we get more value by trading him since he's a huge expiring contract?