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Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2011, 06:54:21 PM »

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He's what, 27 years old, and has had one semi-decent season, playing a large role on a terrible team?

So, we're talking about a rich man's Scalabrine?  In 2005, Scal was 27 with one season of note in New Jersey, although his team was more average than terrible.

Very different skillsets, and the season was much better than Scal's season in Jersey. 

Honestly, the best comparison to him might be Mark Blount's season with the C's, where he earned himself a deal for just over the MLE from the C's.

except there is an excellent chance that he's not as much of a jerk as Blount to take the money and stop trying for the rest of his career, but you never know

Yeah, that is why I hesitated to use Blount as an example, but I think he really is comparable, even down to the point that they both spent their career prior to breaking out as a journeyman who was known for doing the dirty-work.  

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2011, 07:03:33 PM »

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I don't think Humphries will be anywhere near affordable for the C's.  Someone is going to give him a big contract well above the regular MLE, and since the C's only have the mini-MLE to work with, I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about whether last year was for real or not.

I don't necessarily agree that Humphries will get significantly more than the full MLE.  He shouldn't, anyway.  He's what, 27 years old, and has had one semi-decent season, playing a large role on a terrible team?  We'll see what type of fiscal restraint the owners show, I guess.  Whoever signs him would be wise to limit their offer to the MLE.

I definitely agree, though, that he's out of our price range.  3 years, $9 million isn't going to get it done.

Might he be as good as they could get with a two-way sign and trade for Baby?

I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2011, 07:06:56 PM »

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I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

BBD is better than him if he stops taking ill advised shots.
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Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2011, 07:09:35 PM »

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I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

BBD is better than him if stops taking ill advised shots.

I agree, but that's the beauty of Humphries, he recognizes his limits and plays inside, while BBD thinks he's an all-star with Larry Bird like shooting skills. Davis hurt our chemistry badly the last 2 years. If he would have played his role he would have been awesome, but he gets increasingly more selfish each year.

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2011, 07:14:19 PM »

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I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

BBD is better than him if stops taking ill advised shots.

I agree, but that's the beauty of Humphries, he recognizes his limits and plays inside, while BBD thinks he's an all-star with Larry Bird like shooting skills. Davis hurt our chemistry badly the last 2 years. If he would have played his role he would have been awesome, but he gets increasingly more selfish each year.

He played selfishly at times (on many occasions actually) but I wouldn't say he hurt our chemistry. If money isn't an issue, I'll take him over KH anyday...he does more for a team and does it better than KH.

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Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2011, 07:32:00 PM »

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I don't think Humphries will be anywhere near affordable for the C's.  Someone is going to give him a big contract well above the regular MLE, and since the C's only have the mini-MLE to work with, I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about whether last year was for real or not.

I don't necessarily agree that Humphries will get significantly more than the full MLE.  He shouldn't, anyway.  He's what, 27 years old, and has had one semi-decent season, playing a large role on a terrible team?  We'll see what type of fiscal restraint the owners show, I guess.  Whoever signs him would be wise to limit their offer to the MLE.

I definitely agree, though, that he's out of our price range.  3 years, $9 million isn't going to get it done.

Might he be as good as they could get with a two-way sign and trade for Baby?

I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

I suppose if he didn't work out after a year they could amnesty him for the cap space.

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2011, 07:38:29 PM »

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I don't think Humphries will be anywhere near affordable for the C's.  Someone is going to give him a big contract well above the regular MLE, and since the C's only have the mini-MLE to work with, I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about whether last year was for real or not.

I don't necessarily agree that Humphries will get significantly more than the full MLE.  He shouldn't, anyway.  He's what, 27 years old, and has had one semi-decent season, playing a large role on a terrible team?  We'll see what type of fiscal restraint the owners show, I guess.  Whoever signs him would be wise to limit their offer to the MLE.

I definitely agree, though, that he's out of our price range.  3 years, $9 million isn't going to get it done.

Might he be as good as they could get with a two-way sign and trade for Baby?

I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

I suppose if he didn't work out after a year they could amnesty him for the cap space.

I suppose so, but what if it does work out? Do they still amnesty him to get Howard? If so, it may hurt the reputation of the organization for a while, and they lose the amnesty exception that may potentially end up more useful later on. I also thought the amnesty clause only applies to players who were signed before the lockout.

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2011, 08:51:53 PM »

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I don't think Humphries will be anywhere near affordable for the C's.  Someone is going to give him a big contract well above the regular MLE, and since the C's only have the mini-MLE to work with, I wouldn't waste too much time worrying about whether last year was for real or not.

I don't necessarily agree that Humphries will get significantly more than the full MLE.  He shouldn't, anyway.  He's what, 27 years old, and has had one semi-decent season, playing a large role on a terrible team?  We'll see what type of fiscal restraint the owners show, I guess.  Whoever signs him would be wise to limit their offer to the MLE.

I definitely agree, though, that he's out of our price range.  3 years, $9 million isn't going to get it done.

Might he be as good as they could get with a two-way sign and trade for Baby?

I would take that as a BBD replacement only if it doesn't hurt our cap space this summer.

I suppose if he didn't work out after a year they could amnesty him for the cap space.

Amnesty can only be used on contracts signed on the old CBA.  They could use the stretch exception, which stretches their contract out over more years, but that is definitely not as ideal.


Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2011, 09:04:55 PM »

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Humphries has had good games against the C's and out rebounded BBD big time. Memory could be failing; but I would take Humphries if they can be had for the same money. Hoping we can get BBD for less than Humphries would be looking for.

Re: Kris Humphries
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2011, 09:14:48 PM »

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only if he gives celtics fans kardashian n****s for home games other than that naa dudeeee
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