Rank the worst moves in the past year

[Chris]

I am going to throw something else out there...signing JO. 

Lets remember, at the time, they knew that Perkins would be out for at least half the year, and many people suspected it would be much longer than that.  They didn't have any other centers on the roster other than Semih, who was a complete unknown at best.  Shaq wasn't even really on their radar yet, and there certainly was no indication he would sign for the vet minimum.

...so they went out and gave their entire MLE to a guy in JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs, and who had struggled to stay on the floor for the last several years. 

I understand Danny didn't have a ton of great options there, but I certainly think this move deserves some consideration. 

[bfrombleacher]

I am going to throw something else out there...signing JO. 

Lets remember, at the time, they knew that Perkins would be out for at least half the year, and many people suspected it would be much longer than that.  They didn't have any other centers on the roster other than Semih, who was a complete unknown at best.  Shaq wasn't even really on their radar yet, and there certainly was no indication he would sign for the vet minimum.

...so they went out and gave their entire MLE to a guy in JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs, and who had struggled to stay on the floor for the last several years. 

I understand Danny didn't have a ton of great options there, but I certainly think this move deserves some consideration. 

Signing JO wasn't a bad idea. His contract was. He was definitely not worth the MLE. Wasn't Miami paying him the vet's min?

[Edgar]

gigli

 

I know I know, but see what a lettter can make

[PosImpos]

I am going to throw something else out there...signing JO.  

Lets remember, at the time, they knew that Perkins would be out for at least half the year, and many people suspected it would be much longer than that.  They didn't have any other centers on the roster other than Semih, who was a complete unknown at best.  Shaq wasn't even really on their radar yet, and there certainly was no indication he would sign for the vet minimum.

...so they went out and gave their entire MLE to a guy in JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs, and who had struggled to stay on the floor for the last several years.  

I understand Danny didn't have a ton of great options there, but I certainly think this move deserves some consideration.  

I agree.  I do believe that JO tried his best, but as I said in my response to the OP I really think that the biggest mistake of last season was putting so much hope in such injury prone players.

We started the year believing we could win a championship as long as the Big 4 + Shaq, JO, and Marquis were healthy and contributing.  Granted it is in retrospect, but at this point the idea of expecting Shaq / JO / Marquis to be healthy most of the season and into the playoffs was pretty stupid.


Yeah, there weren't a ton of other options, but the way things worked out we would have been better off trying to rely on guys like Kurt Thomas, Ian Mahinmi, or Kyle Korver.

[Edgar]

JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs,

false
he play pretty well


and yes years behind showed his lack of resciliance
and had pretty descent playoffs with us

[PosImpos]

JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs,

false
he play pretty well


and yes years behind showed his lack of resciliance
and had pretty descent playoffs with us

he did have a decent playoffs with us, but the year before that, when we ousted Miami in 5 games, he was downright terrible.  he couldn't score to save his life.

although last year JO was far from useless for us, he definitely wasn't worth anything close to his MLE contract.

[Edgar]

JO who was coming off a terrible performance in the playoffs,

false
he play pretty well


and yes years behind showed his lack of resciliance
and had pretty descent playoffs with us

he did have a decent playoffs with us, but the year before that, when we ousted Miami in 5 games, he was downright terrible.  he couldn't score to save his life.

although last year JO was far from useless for us, he definitely wasn't worth anything close to his MLE contract.

MLE is  an overrated statement

but yes i can follow u on that one


our history in MLEs isnt great btw

[chambers]

I find it hard to call getting rid of Semih a mistake until we see him do something this year, since he did nothing after being traded last season.

His performance while injured, and playing for the Cavs?  I'm comfortable calling the Semih trade a mistake just based on his performance before the trade.  'Gody was whatever, but trading away Semih was more or less the biggest unforced error this season.

I think this is a creative new way to defend Ainge.  There's no question about what the worst Celtics move was this season:  The Trade will go down one of the worst moves in NBA history.  What's truly astounding, though, more than The Trade itself is the near total lack of heat Danny has had to face.  One would think proud Celtic fans would be ticked off that he essentially gave up on the season.

This is never going to get old.  I look forward to arguing about The Trade for the next thirty years, as time scrubs away all details, and the legend of Kendrick Perkins -- AKA Bill Russell Jr. -- ascends into myth.

We'll all regale each other with stories of how you could count on one hand, the number of pre-Trade bench players that could make it to the court without assistance from a crutch, walker, wheelchair, or stretcher.  Perk's primal scream would have obviously cured them, but they couldn't hear it from Oklahoma.

We'll laugh at the non-stop parade of hilarious freak injuries that all happened at the worst possible times.  Shaq's Achilles injury that never healed, and didn't respond after enough cortisone injections to numb an elephant.  JO fracturing his wrist in the first round of the of the playoffs.  Our third-string Center's awesome bone bruises at the end of the regular season, right when we needed him.  Our former double-double machine pick-up who turned out to have as much wind as you can find perhaps in outer space.  And then there's my favorite, where Dwayne Wade breaks our point guard's arm.  If Perk was here, everyone would have just beasted through all that.

We'll shake our heads at the horrible scoring droughts that doomed our title chances.  If only we had a one-legged center who could thunder down 5 PPG in 25 minutes of floor time, and Nate's laser-accurate three point shooting, we would have blown the Heat out of the building by double digits with nobody on the floor except Perk, Avery Bradley, and maybe Doc and two of our tallest cheerleaders.


Or you know, maybe it's just that some days you're the dog, and some days you're the hydrant.

That's the funniest thing I've read on these boards.
Very honest and exactly what I've thought throughout the entire playoffs. I really couldn't agree with you any more. People act like the Perkins trade killed us and like it made any difference in our season and potential outcome. We lacked the scoring punch to ever beat the Heat and we might have beaten the Bulls if we shot well and Ray Allen saved us like he had in previous epic series' vs these guys.
 I'm relaying these comments to some buddies and they're cracking up at the Perkins AKA 2nd coming of Bill Russell remark.
Absolute classic.

[timpiker]

Trying to get 1 healthy center out of the 2 old guys. 

[Roy H.]

I don't think the JO signing was a mistake at the time.  JO was coming off a 70 game season, and his injuries in the playoffs were thought to be fairly normal.  We needed a starting center, and JO's production was above-average for the position.  On top of that, multiple teams were pursuing him.

Under those circumstances, a short-term MLE deal is market value, at the very least.  In hindsight, we all would have preferred to target somebody else, but at the time Danny's reasoning was sound.  It was a risk, but it was a smart risk.

[wdleehi]

1) Perkins trade.  A smaller trade for a backup SF would have made sense.  (especially since Green played like a weaker SF then expected)


2) Expecting Shaq and JO would both be healthy come playoff time.


3) Not resigning TA or another suitable bench wing. 


4)  The mid season signings.  Not a single one did anything.


5) Trading away the rookie big men for nothing. 

[chambers]

JO was a good signing in my opinion. I think most people would agree that he was better than expected for us- particularly in the playoffs with a broken wrist.
His defensive presence in the paint was very solid and I would be happy having him roam the key for another season.
Now he's had the surgery and an off season we can grasp to the thought/hope of him keeping his legs relatively injury free.
The effort he gave us with bad legs in the playoffs was awesome.

[throwedoff]

I think this is a creative new way to defend Ainge.  There's no question about what the worst Celtics move was this season:  The Trade will go down one of the worst moves in NBA history.  What's truly astounding, though, more than The Trade itself is the near total lack of heat Danny has had to face.  One would think proud Celtic fans would be ticked off that he essentially gave up on the season.

LOL you cant be serious?? worst trade in NBA history man the way you guys overrate Perk is unbelievable im close to speechless on this comment alone

[2short]

Last year was all health related.  Maybe the worst move is filling the roster spots with non durables (jo, delonte, marquis) and old guys, shaq, pp,ray,kg, jo
If all the centers are roster are healthy.
shaq (amazing job)
jermaine
perk
semih
No way perk could start for us.  So we traded the 3rd string center and backup mini sg for jeff green, krstic AND the pick.

[pearljammer10]

The Perkins trade will be one of the worse moves this team will make for a long while.