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Rank the worst moves in the past year
« on: August 25, 2011, 09:14:24 AM »

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The season started off perfectly, Rondo was on fire. Shaq looked great. We were on top of the league. Everything was fine and dandy. Yes, Shaq and J.O. were injured but we had four centers.

Then, Marquis happened. So, an array of moves were made before the trade deadline. What were the worst moves in the past year?

1. Not keeping Tony Allen. Not stemming from the freak injury but definitely came back to bite us in the butt. With Tony Allen, we perhaps would not have had to get Jeff Green as a backup. He certainly would have helped in the Heat series. Meanwhile, we can reminisce with this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNpQCbHHdUc

2. Luke Harangody and Semih Erden for cap space. "Blasphemy. How is this worse than the Perk trade?" It is. At least the Perk trade had a rationale and got us something in return. Cap space got us nowhere. At least we would have had a center alongside Jermaine now.

3. Perk and Nate for Green, Krstic and first round pick. It is what it is. At least we have a first rounder some time in the future.

4. Leon Powe. Basically what DA did with the cap space. He signed Carlos Arroyo and Sasha Pavlovic over this guy. Troy Murphy I was not too bothered about. I have a tiny glimmer of hope for him.

5. Letting go of Chris Johnson. He'd make our center problem look a little less gloomy. Chris Johnson, Semih Erden and Jermaine O'Neal is much better than Jermaine O'Neal and Glen Davis (playing center).

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1. Not keeping TA.
2. Letting go of Chris Johnson for Carlos Arroyo
3. Trading Semih and Harangody
4. Trading Perk & Nate (it had to be done, Perk was walking at the end of this season)
5. Not getting Leon. It was still a bad move, but its not like it crushed us.

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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 10:17:54 AM »

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2. Letting go of Chris Johnson for Carlos Arroyo

Really? Didn't know that. A healthy center for Arroyo. Terrible.

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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 10:24:37 AM »

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Losing Chris Johnson was, to me, completely irrelevant.  I don't see any real NBA potential in him.

The two moves that hurt us last year were letting Tony walk, and the Perk trade.  The trade that will hurt us (perhaps marginally) in the future is the Semih Erden trade.  I know that Danny was concerned about Semih going back to Turkey, and was hoping for a piece that would help us in the future while also picking up a high second rounder.  However, none of Murphy, Arroyo, or Pavlovic contributed anything, and now we've got one (injured) center on the roster.  At least Semih could be a viable backup.


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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 11:09:39 AM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

That's pretty much the series right there. Nothing else to add.

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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 11:13:55 AM »

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The trade of Kendrick Perkins.

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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 11:19:03 AM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

That's pretty much the series right there. Nothing else to add.

Rondo wouldn't have helped us win that series. I think game one hurt our momentum going forward more than anything. Felt like there was a lot of this going on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM7sIEZTFYk

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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 11:28:01 AM »

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As far as I'm concerned, it was getting rid of Semih. 

All Troy Murphy has to do to justify himself is make himself more valuable than Semih Erden was last season.  One would think that he'd be able to do that, right?
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 11:37:11 AM »

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I find it hard to call getting rid of Semih a mistake until we see him do something this year, since he did nothing after being traded last season. 

If Semih turns out to be a quality NBA center, then I will revisit it, but as of now, Danny gave up a guy who was not going to help them for a more experienced guy, who didn't help them.

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Losing Chris Johnson was, to me, completely irrelevant.  I don't see any real NBA potential in him.

The two moves that hurt us last year were letting Tony walk, and the Perk trade.  The trade that will hurt us (perhaps marginally) in the future is the Semih Erden trade.  I know that Danny was concerned about Semih going back to Turkey, and was hoping for a piece that would help us in the future while also picking up a high second rounder.  However, none of Murphy, Arroyo, or Pavlovic contributed anything, and now we've got one (injured) center on the roster.  At least Semih could be a viable ackup.

I concur with every point you've made, although I slightly disagree about Johnson. I don't think it hurt us to let him go, but I do think Doc could have turned him into a solid player.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

That's pretty much the series right there. Nothing else to add.

  Yeah, that pretty much made everything else irrelevant, much like KG's knee in 08-09.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC7xFDMXdZc

That's pretty much the series right there. Nothing else to add.

  Yeah, that pretty much made everything else irrelevant, much like KG's knee in 08-09.


Agreed... none of the moves matter after the Rondo injury. We weren't winning a title with Rondo playing with one arm, so moves or no moves it doesn't matter. It's well known that a car with a bad engine doesn't drive that well.


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I think this is a creative new way to defend Ainge.  There's no question about what the worst Celtics move was this season:  The Trade will go down one of the worst moves in NBA history.  What's truly astounding, though, more than The Trade itself is the near total lack of heat Danny has had to face.  One would think proud Celtic fans would be ticked off that he essentially gave up on the season.

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I think this is a creative new way to defend Ainge.  There's no question about what the worst Celtics move was this season:  The Trade will go down one of the worst moves in NBA history.  What's truly astounding, though, more than The Trade itself is the near total lack of heat Danny has had to face.  One would think proud Celtic fans would be ticked off that he essentially gave up on the season.

  We'd have been just as screwed without the trade, unless you're keen on playing most of a month with 4-6 healthy nba rotation caliber players.

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I find it hard to call getting rid of Semih a mistake until we see him do something this year, since he did nothing after being traded last season.
His performance while injured, and playing for the Cavs?  I'm comfortable calling the Semih trade a mistake just based on his performance before the trade.  'Gody was whatever, but trading away Semih was more or less the biggest unforced error this season.

I think this is a creative new way to defend Ainge.  There's no question about what the worst Celtics move was this season:  The Trade will go down one of the worst moves in NBA history.  What's truly astounding, though, more than The Trade itself is the near total lack of heat Danny has had to face.  One would think proud Celtic fans would be ticked off that he essentially gave up on the season.
This is never going to get old.  I look forward to arguing about The Trade for the next thirty years, as time scrubs away all details, and the legend of Kendrick Perkins -- AKA Bill Russell Jr. -- ascends into myth.

We'll all regale each other with stories of how you could count on one hand, the number of pre-Trade bench players that could make it to the court without assistance from a crutch, walker, wheelchair, or stretcher.  Perk's primal scream would have obviously cured them, but they couldn't hear it from Oklahoma.

We'll laugh at the non-stop parade of hilarious freak injuries that all happened at the worst possible times.  Shaq's Achilles injury that never healed, and didn't respond after enough cortisone injections to numb an elephant.  JO fracturing his wrist in the first round of the of the playoffs.  Our third-string Center's awesome bone bruises at the end of the regular season, right when we needed him.  Our former double-double machine pick-up who turned out to have as much wind as you can find perhaps in outer space.  And then there's my favorite, where Dwayne Wade breaks our point guard's arm.  If Perk was here, everyone would have just beasted through all that.

We'll shake our heads at the horrible scoring droughts that doomed our title chances.  If only we had a one-legged center who could thunder down 5 PPG in 25 minutes of floor time, and Nate's laser-accurate three point shooting, we would have blown the Heat out of the building by double digits with nobody on the floor except Perk, Avery Bradley, and maybe Doc and two of our tallest cheerleaders.


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